Scannell

His best games for us before his injury were Burton at home and Shrewsbury away. I thought he was clearly the best player on the pitch v Burton, which at the time wasn't too difficult I admit, but he did play well.

 

Yeah, he ran the show against Burton. I am taking the view that he wouldn't have been fit, like the rest, but if he has chance to work under McElhone and Hopkin he will come good for us and produce performances like Burton more often (you only have to look at Miller and Akpan in the current team now to see contrasting performances). Wasn't he player of the year in the Championship for Palace or Town at one point? The ability is there.

 

Wasn't Yeates an outstanding Championship player at times?

Literally means nothing.

 

And this guy Steven Davies.

 

i think he will benefit from the fact that we have other dangers in the side. Gives him more space to do what hes good at. Being the only good player makes it easier for teams to deal with you. (I've given him enouh excuses. He now needs to deliver)

 

I thought Steven Davies was ok with us.

 

A bit injury prone and looked overweight to me, but as his career was mainly Championship and he couldn't command a regular place, having said that he score a few of important goals for us, I think most hoped he would be a regular starter and be up in the high teens for an ex Championship footballer.

 

It does mean something, Jon. It means they have the ability to make an impact, albeit they are inconsistent.

Given City fans are often known to big up players our of the team (Sattelmaier, Gibson, Brunker to name three recent examples) I'm surprised by the amount of flak Scannell is coming in for. The whole team was gash in the opening months, so he deserves a clean slate when fit IMO.

 

Scannel was one of the best out of a very bad bunch so I agree with your sentiment. He should flourish under the new regime. If you notice from a lot of his crosses, there were always on the deck to feet. Should work great the style we’re playing.

 

Scored thirteen goals in 37 appearances for Rochdale the season after he left us.
I think Parky under used him to be honest. Preferred Hanson and Proctor. Davies often came off the bench too late in games but showed glimpses of being a good player. Held the ball up well, good close control, good shot on the turn. I was disappointed when we released him.

 

Agree with you on his ability, but I always though his temperament was a bit suspect.
First time I saw him play was away at Swindon when we lost the first game of the season. He came on as a sub towards the end of the match. I remember him leaving a foot in on one of their players. It was totally unnecessary, got a booking, and could quite easily been a red.
Other memorable occasion was away at Coventry. Again, he came on as a sub and promptly stamped on a Coventry player, got himself sent off and left us with hardly any fit strikers for the play offs.
He has a nasty streak I am not keen on.

 

Fair comment. I'd forgotten that aspect. Still, he did well for Rochdale the following season when playing regularly. Maybe that side of him was exacerbated by frustration from not getting the game time he desired?

 

What would we have done with Scannell if he was injury free, play Gibson or Seedorf on the opposite wing?

Providing we can keep him fit it's absolutely integral we bring in a decent winger to compliment him.

 

I’m not going to answer for Ronnie, but I can say he looked a class apart, at Shrewsbury, on the opening day of the season. He was also the best player on the park against Burton.

In those games, he went past players as though they weren’t there and we should have scored more than we did.

 

Oh dear.......I find myself agreeing with BB

 

I think it means they have an ability to play a specific role, but it doesn't mean they are of a particularly high quality or possess the ability to massively impact games single handedly.

Teams may have looked at Big Jim when he bullied Mertesacker and sunk Villa and said that's a player, the reality is he had power but give him the ball 40 yards out or without playing to his one strength and suddenly that's a duff player.

I imagine Yeates and Scannell both had great supporting players who allowed them to focus on what they did best. It really doesn't mean they can do the same under different conditions, and thus far, neither have managed it bar a couple of performances.

 

Disagree. PP rarely played 2 out-and-out wingers. Nothing to stop him playing Scannell on one wing and shoring us up with someone like O’Brien on the other side.

 

Rather than playing O'Brien or someone else in an unfamilar role wouldn't it be better to just bring in another wide player?

 

If they are capable of performing the role at championship level, though, that is not meaningless, as you stated previously.

If they can perform it in the champ then they should be able to perform it in L1 for us. The fact he’s done it a few times for us already shows they can. Scannell won players POY in 14/15 at Huddersfield - suggesting he can sustain his form over a season.

Obviously, though, the player needs to have a hunger and desire to be motivated enough to still perform. Not all those dropping leagues do.

They also need to be playing in a system or style that enables them to shine.

Far too many have drawn conclusions on Scannell already when the last month should have shown us players are worth another go in the post-Rahic side - one that is working for each other and so much more creative.

The side Scannell played in was dog dirt. We didn’t make runs, we didn’t cross enough, we were overrun in midfield. Our GF was awful, our xG was dire. On any KPI used to track attacking performance we were dross- genuine relegation fodder.

In a team finally opening teams up Scannell could potentially be deadly. It might be that he’s more effective in a conventional 4-4-2..... time will tell....but what happened (or didn’t happen given we’re on about attacking output) under Rahic needs to be forgotten about.

His loan spell at Burton was curtailed by injury so keeping him sound needs to be our biggest worry IMO - not whether he has the ability to rip this league up.

 

Different players suit different teams and different managers