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  1. How

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    A 32 year old who couldn’t get a game in prem? Wow.
     
  2. Skyebantam

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    What a prospect.
     
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    That's not quite the same thing though. No way should the final have been played there, and it was almost certainly due to copious bribery that it was, but it's different from the question of whether money should be allowed to be invested in football or if each team should purely have to go off gate receipts
     
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    By having the biggest stadium and the good luck of happening to win the first couple of Premier leagues though when all the money came flooding in...
     
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    My point overall is that how is it any more fair for the same team to win it every year just because they're the biggest which is why I gave the examples of Bayern and Juve. Do the 30,000 Man City fans who were going every year in Division 2 deserve it less than any other team?
     
  6. Storck

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    No they don’t deserve it any less then anyone else but surely you can see the difference between spending money the club have generated through the team and spending money because your owners are wealthy.
     
  7. Doodle

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    To be fair that may be the case
     
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    I can see the difference, I'm just saying either can be considered unfair, depending on your point of view.
     
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    Certainly the Premier League is richer for Man Utd not winning it two in every 3 years, then Arsenal in the third because they have bigger stadiums
     
  10. Storck

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    Can honestly say I’ve never heard anyone complain about clubs spending money they have generated
     
  11. Doodle

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    I feel it's slightly more nuanced than that... I think the point I'm trying to make is it's more that those teams can't complain that other teams buy the league through outside investment, when that's what they're doing by being able to generate more money than anyone else. It's still buying the league
     
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    Wow, these German reporters don't hold back do they?

    'DER SPIEGEL: Mr. Ceferin, the aftershocks from the FIFA scandal can still be felt while the Football Leaks revelations uncovered tax evasion and back-room deal-making. Since you were elected UEFA president in 2016, has there been even a single day when you haven't been lied to by a functionary?'

    That's the first question! hahah
     
  14. Interested Bystander

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    Nope, they're always to the point.
    The interesting idea is the "luxury tax" though
     
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    Yes sorry I read the article then got distracted before I had the chance to reply. It does sound like a good idea... where would you rather the money go, other teams in that league or grassroots? Personally I'd go grassroots, or certainly further down the pyramid... if it was divided between that league it wouldn't make a difference or catch the other teams up, whereas it would make a big difference lower down.
     
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    Sadly, I can't see it happening though... too bold with the ever present threat of a breakaway league hanging over everything
     
  17. trevor

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    The FFP rule is a joke and should be abolished, The fairest way is to rely on the free market which will self regulate itself in the long run without some overpaid quango trying to force it in to silly false decisions, More jobs for the boys with all the toys thrown in than in the interest of Football and the fans.
     
  18. Ricc

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    the faux outrage about Salford spending money, and FFP and all that is just plain stupid.

    I guarantee you the same people wouldn't be bothered about clubs going bust or the game being weighted towards the top clubs if the class of 92 and Peter Lim had bought us and were paying 8k a week for Championship players.

    infact, I don't recall anyone moaning about this when we did exactly that last summer on Sean Scannell.


    if you don't like the money in football, stop watching it, go down the park and watch The dog and duck vs the rovers return and leave professional football to those of us that enjoy it and don't pretend to be outraged about other clubs having financial difficulties while Salford show ambition and financial might we can only dream of having.
    fair play to Salford and any other clubs lucky enough to have wealthy owners, or owners not particularly rich but willing to speculate to accumulate and take calculated risks such as Peterborough.
     
  19. Ricc

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    not sure it is, people just want it to do something it was never designed to do.
    it was never designed to stop clubs paying silly money for players - they can still do that aslong as the owner is gifting the club the money.
     
  20. Dennis

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    I agree with most of what you say but so far as 'gifting' is concerned, you're very much mistaken when it relates to the top players; there are specific rules dealing with it. In the form of FFP used in the Championship, the PL and the Champions League, owners cannot simply gift their clubs money. Any such gifts are excluded by the EFL, PL etc in calculating whether a club has breached the FFP rules. If it were that simple, Man C would not have gone through the extensive and very complex ownership structure of the club and their players which they employ and which most regard as a means of circumventing the FFP rules. Instead, the Mansour's would have just given their club huge pots of money and that's not what they've done.
     
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