Racist Bulgarian Fans

Well yes and no. Look up the Football Spectators Act 1989. However, the proposed identity card scheme, was shelved.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/07/football-soccer-id-cards-hooliganism-archive

 

If I get time I'll hunt out sources for the rest but I don't have time to find the articles about it and then find the actual report on it and then hunt through the report right now. (Not helped by news outlets either not linking directly to the report or the link no longer working) But as you can see the Black population of the US is 12% and the percentage of violent crimes committed by Blacks is 21.7%.

I would also add that studies such as the one mentioned here actually found adding more diversity to the police force actually didn't reduce shootings, ethnic minority police were more likely to shoot other ethnic minorities that white people because as the study concludes much of it is related to the type of crimes committed in the areas where shootings are more likely to happen rather than racial motivations (Unless the premise is that Black cops are racist towards black people).

At no point am I saying that there aren't cases of death by cop that seem to be racially motivated, but its way too easy and simplistic to draw the conclusion that because there are some bad apple situations that racism in the police is the only cause.

Last year there were 387 deaths by cop. While per 100k you were more likely to be black in total numbers cops shot more white people than black. As I mentioned and showed in the table above Blacks commit a more violent crime, the article I linked also uses a report that suggests that shootings are related more to the area and the crime that is common in that area. You are generally going to have less violent crime in the leafy suburbs which are mainly white than say somewhere like Compton which is more impoverished and has bigger gang problems where you do get a greater concentration of ethnic minorities and where kids get pulled into gangs at an early age so that does make sense. So why both the number of violent crimes committed and the likelihood of being shot by police does make sense as a bigger reason than racism. And by putting it all down to racism as I said actually both helps make it worse BUT also prevents it getting better.

For starters, the police could be better trained. The average time they spend in the academy is 21 weeks and they are then on the job with a badge and a gun as a rookie police officer. Our police get way more training than that and aren't being handed guns at the end of it. A cop pulling a gun is as likely to escalate a situation, especially if the person is also armed as it is to deescalate it, our police without having a gun to goto would defuse many of the situations but the US police don't have the training to do that, the gun is seen as an easy way of doing it.

But then talking of things escalating being told that police shoot black people routinely just for being black can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. A white guy gets stopped by a cop unless they are doing something illegal they are more likely to be reasonably calm. Fill someone's head with the idea that they stand a good chance of being shot and they either end up acting shifty which is more likely to cause the cops to get twitchy or they get confrontational. Both make something happening more likely and when it does it feeds the belief. There needs to be a clear line between people shot because they were committing a crime and those who were innocent so these middle ground ones where its more situation rather than one side being totally in the wrong are less likely to happen.

There are those and so many other factors that go into creating the situation and as long as people just shift the blame and don't all pull in the same direction its always going to be 1 step forward 2 steps back. It needs a joined-up plan with multiple entities all pulling in the same direction for the common good. because like most things in life its a more complex situation than people like to make out

 

What part exactly is 'outrageous' about what I have posted.

 

Are you seriously so deluded that you think cops are just shooting people for fun who are just sitting there minding their business?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database#

This might be of interest to you. If you set the filter for 2016 to killed by gunshot and who had a weapon you will see



818 of 1093 deaths were people who were armed. If you click on some of the images you get details of the situation and guess what MOST WERE COMMITTING A CRIME either which was violent in the first place or when the police turned up they started acting violently. 818 BTW is 74%

For the record filter by race and you get



That's 50% of all police shootings that resulted in the death of the perp where the perp was armed were white

On the other hand



That's 23%. And yes that's a higher percentage than they make up in the percentage of the population but its also about the same difference as the violent crime figures for them

Seriously why are you being such a dick? At no point did I 'Blame blacks for crime'. If rather than trying to prove how woke you are you had read my follow up post you would see if anything I'm blaming the social-economic situation that you find in poorer areas for it. I provided you with a link to an article about the study that was done in relation to racial bias when it came to death by cop. As found having black cops didn't reduce death by cop, in fact a black cop was more likely to kill a black perp, a white cop a white perp, a Hispanic cop a Hispanic perp because of they are most likely to be stationed in the area they are from, so if there is a poor black neighbourhood many of the cops, especially those recruited to make it more diverse in an attempt to increase trust in the police will be Black.

That study can be read at https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877 or as you don't like reading and the study is fairly long and complex you can read a summary on the Michigan State University site https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/

And poor areas everywhere have higher levels of crime, especially violent crime because these communities become poverty traps that people struggle to break out of. And because of that gang life becomes appealing. Gangs ultimately lead to violence which in the US makes getting fatally shot by police more likely because you are in a gang doing gang-related criminal activities. But for much of the same reason being murdered by gun is also much higher for Black people



48% of all murders with a firearm are black people (51% white but that data counts Hispanics as white)

And that's the point I was making. It's easy to take a few high profile shootings of unarmed Black people by white cops and declare police forces as having major race issues but white cops shoot more white people than black and Black people are more likely to be shot by a Black cop because of the area they are likely to be assigned. And poverty makes these areas more likely for cops to be called to crimes where the likelihood of needing their weapon is much higher. It's the location and the crimes that happen more often in those areas that largely dictate how likely you are to die from a police shooting, not skin colour. If we had a mirror image of the US this discussion would be about Black cops killing white people because the poor areas and the crime and gangs that spring up in poor areas would be being done by the poor white people while the rich black people would be in their better-off areas carrying our rich people's blue-collar crimes

And yes as I said in my other reply the police could help matters. 21 weeks to get a badge and a gun followed by 6 months of having to ride with a training officer isn't enough. In the UK it takes about 2 years of training to be accepted into the force and if you then want to join an armed response unit you need 2 years or more being on the beat, then be selected as suitable (which examinations to make sure you are physically and mentally fit for the job). Then you are allowed to undertake a 2-week course which if you pass leads to a 7-week course and then an 18-week course. So we spend more time just training cops to use weapons than the US cops get learning everything including firearm training. But just labelling all cops as racists who will shoot a black person at the first chance is ignoring the fact its a more complex issue that needs the police, the community, the schools, the parents, the government etc all doing things to reduce the impact of all the factors that play a part in the statistics