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Official Breaking news !!!!

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Silverbantam, May 24, 2018.

  1. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    Looking at people they sold last year that came through the youth set up they netted about £40m, including over £20m for Ake.
     
  2. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    They have gone 17 years since John Terry broke through, so that academy has cost a few quid.

    I know they have the feeder club that they use to loan players out, in Holland.

    Maybe we need an agreement with a National League/National North to send a few out on loan. Surely the likes of Danny Devine would benefit from some men's football.
     
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  3. BoingBoing

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    Fair enough. I understood that Arsenal offered him a contract just before his 16th birthday and I wrongly thought that Barca hadn’t.
     
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  4. BoingBoing

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    As I said earlier Dave, come on mate you’re better than this. You’re not a US suddenly are you? Please, for your sake, stop acting like one
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  5. BoingBoing

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    Are you taking the proverbial? Clubs releasing 19/20yr olds are deemed “failures”, but signing a 23yr old that got released is a “great signing”...?

    WTAF
     
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  6. BoingBoing

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    But it takes us to find just 1 player that we sell for £1.5m for it to pay for itself for the next 5yrs...!
     
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  7. BoingBoing

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    Doesn’t this reinforce the benefit of having a Dev Squad? Had we had somewhere for Donaldson to go, he may not have left when he did.

    It also proves that players that get released at 16/17 AREN’T necessarily poor players. So why shouldn’t we take a punt.... just as Hull did all those years ago???
     
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  8. BoingBoing

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    Go on then Steve, enlighten us. You keep asking Park for the figure, perhaps you should tell us how much we have spent.

    Have you never used the phrase “speculate to accumulate”? Isn’t that what most of us want the owners to do to get us out of L1? But we aren’t happy they want to spend money to try to find a couple of diamonds to polish and sell on?
     
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  9. RonnieBrown

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    And this is WHY I like the very idea of a development squad.

    For up and coming kids, the PL is a tough playground. More often than not - they are farmed out on loan for a couple of years .......... to clubs just like City. In truth, clubs like City are developing other clubs talent ........ Say Burke and Cullen from WHU.
    What the revised Dev squad gives us, is an opportunity to develop more of our own, and reap the benefits of any progress - Be that in strengthening the first team, or the Transfer market. :)
     
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  10. Bantamsteve

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    Very few will know the figure outside VP and I guess it never wil be known
    I and a few more on here would have liked to have seen investment in the first team squad in Jan to give us that boost for a promotion push and if achieved it would have have given us the funds for both
    Speculate to accumulate is what in my opinion should have happened then
    It's all about opinions we are not running the club and all have different ideas how to take it forward only time will tell
    There are no rights and wrongs to this just opinions
    The underlying objective for us all is for a successful Bradford City
     
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  11. pns1945

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    Agree, and make the point that choice is critical to success also imo.
     
  12. Bronco

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    Edin does not want to bring in potential from other clubs, be wants to bring players in who have slipped through Premiership clubs net, not believing for one minute the likes of Loftus-Cheek would be at Bradford City, we are getting their cast offs.
     
  13. Park bantam

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    Lots of very good players are cast offs from top heavy premiership clubs
     
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  14. Bronco

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    Without doubt and I'd suggest if they are good players there will be more than little Bradford City competing for their signatures.
     
  15. Park bantam

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    Well we seem to have just attracted two Robison and Riley going well then
     
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  16. RonnieBrown

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    But there again ....... I'll take PL cast offs all day long. :)
    If a lad was really poor - I doubt he'd be with a PL club for him to spend 5 to 10 years there ........ so there must be 'something' ?
    Sure there'll be a mix of good and bad, there always is. But to pass that up ? No thanks ! :)
    Also - In your view, is Joe Riley a 'poor' signing ? The lad would have preferred to have remained with Man Utd, yet it was made quite clear that Man Utd thought he would not get first team football there.
    I'm not trying to create yet another debate, but just trying to cover all bases, bud. ;)
     
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  17. Bronco

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    Based on what both have potential nothing more at the moment, if their parent clubs couldn't get them both to an acceptable level why do you think we can, I liked what I saw in Robinson in patches during games but seriously a regular starter this season, if he is then IMO we are making some average signings.
     
  18. Park bantam

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    You take some pleasing then I thought Robinson was our most exciting young player for a while
     
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  19. Bronco

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    You once again avoid the point which was overall taking the usual starters out we had a weak overachieving squad and when injuries kicked in we were found wanting, so the lad got his chance because of injuries not because he was good enough to start.
     
  20. Dennis

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    In those two posts, I've think you've highlighted the flaw in Rahic's strategy of finding potential gems from other clubs who have been let go and we can somehow develop them and sell them on at a later stage stage for let's say a million pounds.

    Rahic's strategy raises several questions for me ...

    1. These young players who we hope to recruit have often spent years at clubs with better coaching facilities than our own, under the eyes of some of the best development coaches around and they know these young players inside out. Why do we see something in them from maybe watching them a few times in development games which their parent clubs haven't?

    2. Having spent years at clubs with some of the best coaching facilities, the young players are being released apparently without having realised their original potential. Why do we think that we can develop them better than say the coaches at Man C or Arsenal to realise this unfulfilled potential?

    3. We see some value in these young players who might bring in millions to the clubs over the years by selling them to more wealthy clubs to help us to reinforce the first team budget. Why wouldn't their current clubs also recognise this value in these players, continue to develop them and sell them later at a profit in the way we want to do?

    4. Will there be competition for these future stars from other clubs at our level or are we the only club thinking of taking this route? Can it continue to be done on the cheap if other clubs follow the same strategy?

    It's all very puzzling and given our recruitment of development players to date with only say Robinson and Hudson showing any potential from the dozen or so we've already recruited, I don't yet see much to get excited about for the future. We're still at the stage imo where 'hope' remains the key word.
     
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