Odsal Redevelopment, Council Finances, Council Services & The Private Sector

Not quite sure on the relevance of that point to be honest. Ever been to valley parade on pizzing down tuesday night, i think you will find a considerable drop in attendance on those nights too. we were lucky to have 7/8k in the ground same games last year.

A "potential" ground at odsal, would be 10 mins on a bus from the town centre, on a route serviced by 5 bus routes, wibsey, wyke, dewsbury, brighouse and west bowling. Not too disimilar an hassle as someone getting from south bradford to manningham lane without a car on a pizzing down tuesday night

 

Never said it was better than VP.

What I will say is VP is a dump also.

 

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I believe Huddersfield offer something similar as their ground isn't near any good routes for trains.

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Lazy gets, im sure its a damn sight nearer from their train station to the ground than ours is.

 

You're missing the point, it’s a fifty times better dump than Odsal will ever be.

 

Yes West Brom in a 3-1 defeat. Odsal has some differing memories for me, my debut watching City, 3-1 v Shrewsbury, that infamous day v Leeds and Ipswich when we lost 4-3 and it never stopped pizzing it down and the next home game we beat Town 4-3!!!

Would I want to go back. Not on your Nelly. That said, this venture won't happen. Pie in the sky.

 

It’s wholly relevant, name all the hospitality opportunities for fans that want hospitality for 60 mins before a game, surrounding Odsal, Bankfoot, Wibsey, West Bowling. Please don’t give me the spin that they can be “built”. Sustainable by being used 60 minutes once a fortnight? If they were sustainable NOW for and behalf of the local population they would STILL BE THERE. They aren’t! It’s unsustainable, so is a stadium it’s that simple. You won’t remember the old proposed scheme whereby they were going to have annual horse jumping shows there . Utter utter b/s, just like this scheme.

 

Currently!

However, lazy Bradford City have big decisions to make soon. VP needs serious money.

 

I particularly love this quote basically admitting that Bradford has been pointed out as tge biggest shithole, needing the most help in the North. What a way to sell your City.

 

Absolutely, experience of the place combined with footballing use , is invaluable.

If they developed it with a driverless rapid transit transport system up and down Manc Rd , free on match days ( Not buses for god sake) then we may have a goer. Idea for maintaining support for the City Centre establishments? Sadly that would cost more than the stadia.

 

Although Wibsey has lost its share of pubs the same as everywhere else we did a pub count with
regards hostelries up to 10/15 minutes walk away from Odsal and it has more pubs in the vicinity than Valley Parade.

 

Rugby Union I'd agree but not Rugby League, how many Rugby League clubs down South.

 

The daft thing is we should be championing a scheme that has the potential to bring jobs and new infrastrucutre to arguably the least invested area in the uk over the decades. Yet no one has any faith in any scheme led by the council after the failed schemes costing millions over the years. Heck, even the Odeon would have been pulled down if it wasn't for the efforts of the puiblic to stop it. Fact, we've had failed Odsal redevelopment schemes for as long as i can remember, 'Wembley of the North' and all that tripe. Lets face it, if we really want a stadium complex fit for the next generation of Bradfordians, then fill in Odsal, pull down Valley parade, buy up the land of the old post office buildings and the nearby land including Halfords and stick a 25/30,000 seater stadium on it. 5 minute walk into an alleged redeveloped city centre and the infrastructure of leisure outlets that will give you, which in turn allows for a great venue for other outside entertainment such as music concerts. Walking distance from new and existing hotels and two dead end train stations (unfortunately we will never have a through rail link).

 

The figures don't add up, the cost is far more than the grant, the income and benefits are over exaggerated and fairytale additions like solar farms and hotels are proposed costing millions more. A dome stadium for a summer sport at a failing team who at their peak would have been lucky to see what BCAFC are pulling in for a standard league 2 game.

This has all the hallmarks of complete and utter failure, but with the "we tried it's the governments fault" blame shift when this fantasy is rightly laughed out at the first stage.

Keighley won a £2.25m grant to build a new main stand a facilities because the plans were reasonable, thought out and realistic. There are no claims of it bring thousands of people into the area or them all spending £500 each. Just a new stand with what they need.

It's no surprise one has been granted and the other remains a fantasy first dreamed up nearly 50 years ago.

This is how Keighley have sold their plans.

 

City should keep well clear of this.It will never happen,and if City get dragged into this,they could find themselves with nowhere to play in a few years time.

 

There will be a dome stadium on the moon before there is one at Odsal.

 

Yes I know Dave, but within easy walking distance of alternatives like North Parade or the City Centre as an equivalent?