Odsal Redevelopment, Council Finances, Council Services & The Private Sector

It’s not a rebuild. It’s a refurbishment.

50m government money.

 

Bradford Council are not interested in Rugby. They use Rugby because the southern government and current blues love of rugby.

The council feel they have more chance of getting money if they use rugby than football.

 

Parts of the that I agree, and others not.

Unfortunately it's becoming less of a multi sport venue now. The dimensions of the track now appears to be fair bigger than in its previous guise, so much so that rugby club have had to get special dispensation to carry on playing there as the pitch is now way under the official playing size regulation, and quite frankly is embarrassing.

Another to be considered is the significance in the drop in numbers attending the latest stock car events. The last couple of meetings have had less than a 1000 there, a massive fall from the 3 and 4000 that turned up when stock cars first came back.

I think the previous promoter got out while he could having seen the fall in attendances. It's only a matter of time before they will be making a massive loss on each event

 

It shows how far the Bulls have fallen in that it took another sport to allow them back to their 'home'. Truth is, without a major tenant in the building like for example City, this stadium doesn't have the justification for being built. Speedway is insignificant in this country, stockcars has an audience but nowhere near enough to make a difference and rugby league without an investor willing to lose money is dead in Bradford. The odd concert here and there and rugby semi final is not going to create the revenue needed to entice investors to part with their money.
As for the development itself, if you take the figures quoted in the reports of revenue and customers then also take the build cost of £100 million with a pinch of salt. Cost will most definitely go up as with every council led project, usually with little justification.
And to clear i'd love to see Bradford with a sporting venue/centre that is fit for the next generation of Bradfordians. But unless that definitely includes Bradford City then it cannot work

 

I understand they are two rugby codes and down south it’s Union but they are hoping it’s just the Rugby connection.

Bradford has its begging bowl out and it normally never works.

However, with all this it could be the kick up the butt Bradford City need but their lease runs out soon and big decisions need to be made. VP is falling apart like Osdal is.

 

Remember those soulless miserable wet nights when we were groundless after the disaster?
A life long City fan like me found the experience truly awful…I never thought I would say this but it was an absolutely relief to go to an away ground or Leeds Rd Huddersfield.

Location
Lack of local amenities
Not easy to get to unless one lived in South Bradford

If there was such a place NOT to build a stadium in relation to the City it serves……this was ( is ) it!

This is once again absolute b/s from naive politicians trying to gain capital from a tiny handful of constituents. Sheer and utter madness.

 

Another take from 'Yorkshire Live'

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/bradford-could-uk-biggest-stadium-25066949

 

The rugby league connection will simply be due to the rugby football league owning the lease for a very significant period and then likely to be providing or pushing for some of the private funding

 

Rugby league have employed the company IMG to oversee the effective rebranding of the sport which I expect will see major changes. The bulls are hoping part of this rebranding and restructuring will be beneficial to them in the long term. If by some miracle building work does start then this the only bargaining chip City would have in Valley Parade negotiations.

 

Odsal was an absolute hole in the ground AFTER it’s last refurbishment. You think it’s better than Valley Parade at this moment in time? Can I have some of what you are drinking?

When will fools realise it’s nothing more than a gigantic hole in the ground, with concrete terracing around the base of this gigantic hole.

IF this were to go ahead, it won’t, can you see the owner operators permitting speedway and stock car racing in a shiny new stadium , say the size of Readings stadium with shale around the perimeter and a patch of grass in the middle. The taxpayer should have zero input into this absolute charade of a scheme.

 

I've never understood the locality arguement in all honest, it's ideal for visiting fans and for potential concert goers in that it's smack bang on the end of the motorway. It's not like we've moved the ground to an industrial estate in the middle of nowhere

I get that everyone will have there own opinion about ease of getting to the ground etc, but it's almost like everyone thinks that all of Bradford city's spectators live in North Bradford and as such moving the stadium to the south of Bradford is a major inconvenience. I'm sure there are just as many fans in the South of Bradford who find getting to valley parade a pain In the backside.

Listen I'm not saying we should move etc, but as a future viable alternative why not, I'm sure the access links will improve, there are plans for ample parking (none currently at city), a park and ride will be built (10 mins up Manchester road from town to stadium) and low moor station 15 mins walk away.

There are many reasons not to move but using locality to complain about moving to a brand new state of the art facility from one that sparks said last week we can't afford to refurb anymore isn't one of them

 

More pie in the sky nonsense.

It shouldn't and won't happen. There is absolutely no need for it.

 

That article, now I understand what is being proposed is spin, spin, gaslighting, more spin, more gaslighting , more b/s than what we see coming from Government political leaders. It’s fantasyland.

 

Ever been to Colchester’s ground if you live in Colchester without a car on a pizzing down Tuesday night , and then ask yourself without letting children in for free, ( My grandsons use it often) how they can still get extremely low attendances and survive . They are nearly £40 m in debt to the owner…..that’s how.
Did you attend games at Odsal post 85?