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Run by Fordy?

 

Try explaining that to some BB. They'd think you'd just invented fire.

 

Because too many people start the conversation with the assumption that nothing will change I.e. We'll build a stadium but the roads, public transport, shops, restaurants, anything in fact will just be as it is. Its very unlikely that a town or city would be supportive of a stadium being built and invest in nothing else to complement it.

 

Brighton?
Of course some of us traveled to Huddersfield for our home games. When needs must.
Odsal is a pretty awful stadium. That's not because it's at odsal, that's because it's an awful stadium. Build a modern covered stand 'enclosed' stadium and it will be a completely different experience. Heck you could even incorporate a bar that serves real ale!

 

I didn't say it was going to happen. I just presumed it was a theoretical discussion. History tells us that Bradford City's new stadium is a fantasy.

 

Elland Road is a poor stadium in today's world. I last went for a rugby league international and was less than or impressed with the arena itself. I have seen the plans for development but it will take a couple of hundred million to turn it into a stadium fit for 21st century European football.

 

Shit ground full of shit.... live a million miles away nowadays but will never have anything good to say about them "dirty Leeds"

 

Not this old Chesnutt again, to have a viable alternative we have to have an owner with vision going forward and although Stefan regards himself as our proud custodian I doubt very much he's looking at moving from Valley Parade, and Gordon Gibb will be well aware of it.
If and when we start to clime the football pyramid the rent becomes less and less relevant, although Ryan has commented with regards having talks with Gibb I can't see what he can do to help the club apart from buying Stefan out, Gibb has to honour the agreement struck with the Pension Fund and Bradford City why would he accept less rent and have to make up the difference up himself, IMO we ain't going nowhere and Gordon Gibb is well aware of it and basically has us over a
barrel.

 

£30 - £40 k per acre for that area and accounting for site clearance.

 

Thanks Roger, pretty much confirms what I and many others have said all along , the ground is worth scrap metal value and low rent land.

 

Nothing

 

Yep 100%, that’s why I guess it’s worth little without a tenant. We are however in a conundrum. On that basis we have little option to pay the rent unless we have a CAST IRON plan B

 

Because people believe we shouldn’t be paying rent. Unless we have an alternative then we are where we are. I have no problems paying the rent, seemingly others believe we should be building a new stadium costing???. Or some in utopia thinking it should be paid for by an imaginary sugar daddy.

That’s why it keeps endlessly arising.

 

Couldn't imagine playing at any other ground. How much would a stadium of similar capacity cost??

It would have to be joint-funded and it would only be a good idea if we had a billionaire owner that could build a super complex...

Good researching thanks....and well in that case we are never moving

 

Sorry I'm a bit late to this, Wilsden, but it is not always the wealth of the owner / Chairman. You mention 3 clubs. In the case of Brighton the new stadium was funded from the sale of existing assets, including the old Goldstone ground for redevelopment, I think residential. In the case of Swansea it was funded totally from the large retail park adjoining, anchored by Morrisons. As far as Rotherham, you are quit correct. Tony Stewart, through his business was responsible and I think it cost him. He told me he had plans for a huge training complex next to the stadium instead of leasing Parkgate (sound familiar) but that has not happened and neither has the stadium extension, current capacity around 10.5k.
I'm familiar with a lot of the new / newer grounds and it is almost never the owner or Chairman's money. Here are a few.
Scunny - Moved from the Old Showground from sale to Safeway. Planned to move again to sell for extension of the Retail Park next door but there is no more retail expansion and it fell through.
Walsall - Moved from Wallows Lane from sale to Morrisons, plus income from the non food Retail Park at Bescot.
Bristol Rovers - had planned a new stadium from sale to Sainsbury but that Company like others has curtailed development.
Wigan - Combined stadium on the back of old Central Park sale to Tesco and I think the football ground went for housing.
Shrewsbury - Sold Gay Meadow for hosing, being a prime central site in a nice town.
Morecambe - Sold Christie Park? to one of the German Discount stores.

The similar exists in Scotland where due to low attendances most Clubs are a community focus for conference and dinner events to assist income so look at this angle.
Falkirk - sold Brockville to Morrisons funding better facilities at new stadium.
Kilmarnock - sold Board owned land to Morrisons funding stadium facilities.
St. Mirren - sold Love Street to Tesco, now a housing site.
Hamilton Accies - did a partial land swop with Morrisons in return for exclusive decked car park for functions.
St. Johnstone - sold Pert Road to Asda, funding new stadium.
There will be others, the point is very few owners have committed personal monies but have had an existing asset to trade. I gave my views on value earlier.

 

MK's is nice...it's just empty

 

And padded seats.

 

There is no alternative to Valley Parade. The stadium is our home and will be more than adequate for our needs for decades to come. Just got to work out a way in the long term to get the costs down, realistically buying the ground is the best option and I've heard Gibb could be up for it in the future if the terms were right.