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Manny Osadebe leaves ...

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Ollylondonbantam, Jan 18, 2024.

  1. Kevin1954

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    That’s makes good business sense for our club, frees up his registration, pays off his contract, because he knows he won’t get another at BCAFC.
     
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  2. Kevin1954

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    FGR paid us to pay off his contract and called it a transfer fee.
     
  3. Dennis

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    If he'd stayed here, he would have continued to have been paid his current contract until it ended.

    If he'd had his contract terminated by the club, he'd have been entitled to the rest of his contract. That would have been the case even if he later signed for another club.

    But he didn't do either of those. He was transferred to another club and signed a new contract with his new club. The club has no residual contractual obligations towards Manny from that point. The only exception to that is if it had been in his original contract which is very unusual. Or Sparks was feeling very generous towards him!
     
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  4. Sergio Pinto III

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    So if I am Manny, I say I dont want to go and you are stuck with me for 6 months.....

    What does Sparks do then if FGR are prepared to pay a fee? He pays him off to F off.
     
  5. Ulysses S Grant

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    I don't get this paying off the contract lark. It doesn't make any sense. If we sell him on 18th January, then surely we stop paying him on 18th January and on 19th he gets paid from FGM. We haven't released him, or agreed to pay him off, we've sold him.

    Why would we pay off his contract when someone else has given him a new one, surely the process means that he agrees to waive the rest of his contract here to enable him to take up his new one.

    Does anyone honestly believe that if Man Utd signed Harry Kane this window, that he would get a new contract there and paid up the value of his contract at Bayern ?
     
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  6. Dennis

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    If you were Manny in that situation, the advice would be simple .... Don't sign a new contract! City and FGR cannot agree a transfer without your signature on the contract
     
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  7. Sergio Pinto III

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    You are forgetting one key fact - did Manny want to go???????????????? You cant force a player to leave! You sometimes need to dangle a carrot in front of them. If the FGR fee covered what Manny wanted to go then why wouldnt you get rid of an unwanted player and save 6 months wages?

    Come on.....
     
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  8. Ulysses S Grant

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    Big assumption that he has said that ! Why would he, the chance of playing at Vegan Burger King UK is much higher than here and he's potentially signed for more money and longer than he had left here.
     
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  9. Sergio Pinto III

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    And Bradford are stuck with his wages for 6 months.......................

    So tell me, how do you get rid of him and force the transfer through?
     
  10. Ulysses S Grant

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    Why would he want to stay ? Out of the team, unlikely to get another start, six months left then unemployed ?

    There's much more chance he saw a fresh start available and jumped at it.
     
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  11. Sergio Pinto III

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    And by the same token it is a big assumption that he wanted to leave.......

    Nobody knows.
     
  12. Sergio Pinto III

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    I dont disagree. But if he was smart he could have digged his heels in and got the best of both worlds.
     
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    But still has no relevance to my point that their last 4 (5 if you include Hannah Dingley as caretaker) managers since they won the title have averaged about 5 months each.

    If giving repeated managers 5 months each and then sacking them is a well run club then we have very different opinions of what that means.

    Does the Richmond fiasco from 2000 pale into insignificance because we got promoted in 1996(only 4 years previous)

    With your thinking their fans shouldn’t be upset when they are relegated back to the National league because they won the league 2 title in 2022.

    I,on the other hand will be absolutely pissing myself.

    Joke of a club/owner.
    (Since they won the league title)
     
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  14. Dennis

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    First of all, a transfer cannot be forced through without Manny's agreement. That principle goes all the way back to the aftermath of the Bosman ruling.

    As an alternative, we could allow him to stay and continue to pay his contract. Or we could terminate his contract and pay him his contractual entitlement. Either of those options are possible. The second would have to be negotiated and would be a waste of time for all parties. Meanwhile, FGR couldn't sign him which they clearly want to do.
     
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    I don’t think he is the type tbh. The fact we took care of him whilst he was out with his leg would carry goodwill. Yes I know it is part of his contract, but still.
     
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    Manny has left. He hasn’t gone on loan like Oliver. We got a fee. FGR will have to meet his salary. So until we sign someone else we will gain the fee and save on wages!

    Like many on here, l got the impression that he was a pleasant individual. The awful leg break, may well have affected how he plays. His displays on the football pitch, other than being Bambi on Ice, will largely be forgettable

    Wish him well for the future, 12th March excepting.
     
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  17. Kevin1954

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    Totally and utterly irrelevant … The topic was YOUR comment regarding FGR not what is the price of fish. I can see its gone way over your head when you say we utterly ignore “ history” then in the next sentence quote “ history” from over a century ago.

    Just take time out and read what you typed from the moment you suggested FGR was a basket case of a club. It started poorly and got more ridiculous the more you replied.

    For clarification. Their RECENT record of success in L2 is likely better than BCAFC .

    Your response, ah but we won the Cup in 1911.
     
  18. Ulysses S Grant

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    Their recent record of success in League Two is better for one single solitary season and they will be a non league club again by May. Exactly where they belong.
     
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    I hope we got the money before FGR sacked Their manager.
     
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    Wrong club at the wrong time. Good luck Manny
     
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