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Lewis O'Brien

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bantam cook 81, May 6, 2019.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    I prefer to look at the good progressive things a youth player has achieved in his first season as a first team player rather than look for individual errors here and there. Put it this way, if there had been a player of the year award he would have won it hands down. Not one other player came close to showing that level of consistency. And lets be clear, no one is saying he has been amazing, it would be impossible for any player to have been amazing in that set up.
     
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  2. BradfordBanter

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    That day hasn't cost us the season, what cost us is the players who sacked it off all season. Not LOB who grafted for a full season and quite clearly gave it everything. To even pull it up is very petty...
     
  3. SydneyBantam

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    Very good player is young Lewis. Got tired towards the end as he was trying to do everyone else's job. A fine first season in senior pro football.
     
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    no, it was 1 of 46 games that cost us. they all count equally.. if we’re happy to criticise doyle or payne for missed penalties, referees that make mistakes, o’donnell for conceding when he should do better then o’brien has to be open to criticism too, they all are. it’s collective responsibility that the squad of players have to accept, o’brien being one of those players involved in the bradford city squad of 18/19.
     
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    i don’t disagree but for people to say he’s not open to criticism because of his age or because it’s his first full season in professional football is just making excuses. there have been times this season, like everyone, that he has been poor and made mistakes that have cost us.
     
  6. BradfordBanter

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    I think you're in Cuckoo land. Doyle etc are criticised for their performances and effort throughout the season, we saw it every week consistently from the same players that obviously didn't care enough to at least run - if you are saying Lewis didn't work hard you are wrong and have been watching something different to what I have this season.

    There is such a huge difference to the players you mentioned and LOB, you're way wide of the mark and your comments are unfair.
     
  7. JonButterfield

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    So your point is he comes out of the season with no credit because he had two poor performances?
     
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    You’re seeing things that aren’t there. No one has said he is free from criticism. Liverpool pulled off one of the best results of all time, but i don’t notice people pulling up Shaqiri for his woeful passing. O’Brien over the course of the season showed a maturity beyond his years which when added to his form ‘over the season’ made him a stand out candidate for the player if the year. Lionel Messi was awful last night, i guess that performance will negate all the wonderful performances that make him a balon dor candidate?
     
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    I think it is the number of errors, poor effort and the fact that many of the other professionals were far more experienced which was critical.
    I am not trying to exonerate Lewis for the things you pointed out, but his contribution to our downfall is far far less than virtually all of the other regular first team players. In fact I struggle to think of any one who has put as much in effort and energy. Actually no one has!
     
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    no. show me where i’ve said he comes away with no credit. as per usual, you exacerbate what has been posted to suit your view. what i am saying is that like every other member of the squad he is open to criticism for aspects of his performance this season and like others he has cost us points which has led to us playing league two football next season. not acknowledging these and making excuses that it’s his first season or he is young doesn’t cut it. he’s part of a relegated squad and as part of that squad he should rightly be criticised, just like o’donnell, doyle, payne, NKP and chicksen etc. relegation is collective for the team and the club, nobody should come away without some sense of responsibility for what has occurred.
     
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    again, you’re putting words in my mouth that were not there. show me where i said he didn’t run or work hard. what i said is that he made mistakes that cost us goals in games, like everyone else and should be criticised for those mistakes. he should not be put on a pedestal for simply running and working hard. there are elements to his season that cost us at times, to say otherwise is blinded.
     
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    I think you're being blind, you point out two games. Gary Jones made mistakes in the history making season? But does that matter when his overall contribution was as it was? No it doesn't.

    LOB isn't being put on a pedestal for just running and working hard though is he? My point was that is the bare minimum which the names you mentioned haven't done. LOBs offer a spark in midfield and as others have mentioned above, he would have been POTY by quite a stretch.
     
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    O'Brien is more entitled to a 'free ride' than any other player ....... HE stepped up, whilst 'Honest pros' stepped down and back. So yes, the kid had a few bad moments, but he atoned more than enough later, IMO.
     
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    Well its pretty obvious.

    Someone posted good luck to the lad he's given his all and is an example to follow, and you've replied saying except in these instances, implying he isn't a good example and didn't give his all.

    You obviously thought that wasn't a fair comment, and needed a counter balance based on two instances, suggesting he wasn't worthy of the credit given in the post.

    As you can see, that response has been universally regarded as bizarre and unfair.

    Don't get angry at me because you made a petty point that other people shat on :)
     
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    NO, No and no @brisbanebantams@brisbanebantams ....... The kids only real responsibility was to do his best, and improve game by game. I think he more than did that.
     
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    I’ll ask again, where has anyone said that Lewis O’Brien is free from criticism? You keep peddling this line but it simply isn’t true.
     
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    Goodness me ......... I don't think you get this one.

    OK ...... NEXT season City pull off the Quadruple - Lge 2 Champs, Win the FA Cup, League Cup and Pisspot Trophy.
    There will be some negatives in all that ........... BUT City fans will overlook them for what has been achieved.

    It's the same with O'Brien ...... A few mistakes, but without doubt, this last years outstanding player. So yeah, we should knock him for being SO imperfect, huh ? ;)
     
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    :brig::brig::brig: I see Brisbane has got everyone’s attention lol
     
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  19. brisbanebantams

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    so as part of a squad, as a player who has played more minutes than most others he has zero responsibility for what happened last season? as long as he improves then that’s all that matters?
     
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    If the rest had his attitude we would have been nearer the other end of the table. The sort of player we want and need next season
     
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