I’m with you Bronco. Looking at the table, as poor as we are, I don’t believe the likes of Port Vale, Colchester and Northampton are any better than us.
That said, the January transfer window was as bad as anything we’ve seen before. I don’t think folk realise how much the loss of Vaughan will affect us. Had we simply replaced Doyle with Novak and signed a quality workhorse for the middle of the park, I’d have been happier.
I just don’t see where the goals will come from.
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Rogered Tart Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrantbantamdave41, Ponty City, Bronco and 5 others like this.
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Offcomedun Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro2020 Winner Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 3rd Place
Give them a chance FFS. They've inherited a bloated, unbalanced, rather dispirited squad rammed with too many 'incredibly average' (ie poor) players with limited creativity and even poorer finishing. They've had very little chance to get their ideas embedded in training because of the weather and the frequency of matches. They'll need some time to turn things around and it may be that these players aren't able to respond to a more expansive, controlled passing game. In which case we can't really judge until they've had a chance to bin off the dross and bring in players that can play in their preferred fashion.
I haven't written off the playoffs but I'm not optimistic because the raw material they're working with may not be good enough.Morley Bantam, Ponty City, MallorcaBantam and 4 others like this. -
Offcomedun Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro2020 Winner Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 3rd Placehippo, Dubois, bantam2708 and 4 others like this.
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Rogered Tart Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrantbantamdave41, Ponty City, Dubois and 4 others like this.
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The Granby Mullet Impact SubP.L. 20/21 EntrantStop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Mitchelldownie, Offcomedun, Onside and 3 others like this.
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Idlebantam Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 10
My optimism has totally evaporated for this season. I know it only takes a couple of wins on the bounce to perhaps put us back with a shout, but cannot see it happening.
Most of this squad looked resigned to missing out on play offs and a lot of them know they wont be here anyhow next season
McCall already planning on next seasons recruitment with Rhodes apparently. Despite many been out of contract, not an easy rebuild due to the lopsided balance of who will still be in contract, for example all 4 centre backs and the likes of Novak and Guthrie up frontSilverbantam, Dubois, Onside and 3 others like this. -
The underlying issue here is that we operate hand to mouth on and off the pitch. We recruit a manger, he rebuilds the squad in his style of football, it takes time for the squad to function, it doesn't work quick enough, we sack the manager. We appoint a new manger, he rebuilds the squad in his style of football, his squad takes time to function properly, it doesn't work quick enough, we sack the manager. And so on. And to add to it, what that prevents is any time in which to develop our own players to get them up to first team squad capability.
The only period where we had stability that I can recall is under Parky when he just saved us from dropping into non-league and he had the luxury of a lengthy run to rebuild the squad - albeit in his own style. It comes back to what we've discussed previously that we need a vision on how the club should be run including how we play the game on the pitch. This won't be a popular comment but the nutcase Rahic had a point. The club shouldn't leave recruitment and therefore the style of football entirely in the hands of the manager. The club's future is more important than the relatively short term thinking of the current manager.Interested Bystander, Onside, Dubois and 3 others like this. -
I can't be arsed anymore.
I hate these players... This is lots to do with last season, not just this one.
They don't want to be here, Stealing a wage the lot of them.
Bowyer should never been given the job full time in the first place. There was no improvement when he took over. Warning signs were there. Some say let him build his own team, well look at what he brought in. I mean Taylor... Ffs old has been.. Jobs for mates.
As we all know I wanted him gone sooner.
We should be getting promoted this season and automatically at that.
But we're not. Next season we'll be in league 2. Happyclappers will love it.
And that's on JR & SR
I won't be wasting my time and money while we're in this shite league. Am sure the club won't miss my ££££ oh wait it will!!!TallinnBantam, BSABantam74, Bantam@{Lancs} and 2 others like this. -
JonButterfield Star PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
Let's be honest, if Anthony O'Connor is our best player, we are punching WELL above our weight to even consider the play offs as a possibility.
Stuart needs to trim the fat big time in the Summer, and bring in some footballers.Morley Bantam, Bantam@{Lancs}, Fordy117 and 2 others like this. -
Offcomedun Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro2020 Winner Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 3rd Place
The reason that neither of them wanted to be here was because they were being hung out to dry - forced to play back to goal, drop deep and deal with aerial missiles from the back four. Both are goalscorers who play facing goal and do their work in the opposition penalty box. Expecting them to play as target men is like playing Ismael as a centre back, with similarly poor results. No self-respecting goalscorer would be happy with Bowyer's ultra defensive tactics - putting nine men behind the ball, creating next to no chances and then publicly moaning at the isolated forwards for not clinically finishing every occasional half chance that randomly fell their way.
I'm convinced that McCall, or most other managers, would have found a way to utilise Doyle and Vaughan's talents to far better effect. There are other ways to create and convert chances without a target man, but Bowyer's football vision was too limited to see them. But we'll never know now, because we were never given the chance to enjoy seeing them play their natural game and do what they are good at.Onside, Ponty City, Fordy117 and 2 others like this. -
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WilsdenBantam Squad PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020
I picked the bottom option, my moral with the club is down there as it was at the start of last decade under Jacks and Taylor. I’ll renew next year out of habit, and hope but at this moment in time I can’t think of a single good thing at this club.
If someone said we’ll be playing good football next season and challenging for the title, like a Swindon or Exeter but you’ll have to pay £400 for your season ticket I’d be down there after work today to buy one. As it is I’ll be waiting until the last minute and I can be bothered to go down and sort it.
The January window was the final straw for me with the guys at the top. I don’t blame Bowyer for losing two of if not the best two strikers in this league, it’s on Rhodes and Rupp, the replacements tell you all you need to know. Now we’re stuck with 3 non goal scoring target men for the rest of the season, and that’s why I don’t give us a hope of making the playoffs even if we are only effectively 5 points behind with goal difference.
You either back or sack your manager we did neither then sacked him just after the window, in my opinion it was a deliberate and snide tactic to cut costs and it happened exactly the same 2 seasons ago under the same owner.
I can’t be arsed with Saturday but I’ll be there for the social aspect, but if we get anything I’ll be surprised.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Dubois, bantam2708, Rogered Tart and 2 others like this. -
bantamdave41 Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020
It's very depressing, very cynical on the part of the club and as one who did not advocate the return of McCall, the probable bumpy Road may well continue amongst our fickle fans, who may well use heart instead of head in making a considered appraisal.Silverbantam, Dubois, WilsdenBantam and 2 others like this. -
With 12 games left and us a point off a play off place, it would be premature to write the season off at this stage.
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You’re just claiming it has to justify your dismay at his appointmentThe Granby Mullet, Craven Koppite, Keefly Bantam and 1 other person like this. -
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Offcomedun Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro2020 Winner Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 3rd Place
It was obvious that Bowyer had lost the fans and was clueless about how to stop the slide. They must have been already contemplating the chop. To wait until he'd binned off our best goalscorers before acting was utter madness.Dubois, Onside, The Granby Mullet and 1 other person like this.
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