'Jokes' which might offend

What? Nothing has been cancelled, it’s about treating people with respect. There are boundaries. Racism isn’t funny, mysogyny isn’t. If racism or mysogyny make you laugh then yes, you should stop and ask yourself is that ok. Donald Trump mocking disabled people isn’t ok. That’s not cancel culture, being woke or whatever, it’s just treating everybody with respect. The reason Jim Davidson isn’t getting many gigs on TV isn’t because of cancel culture, it’s because his racist or sexist sketches aren’t funny.

 

You've just proved my point there.. think before you laugh, ridiculous..

 

Lets be fair. Jim Davidson was never funny.

 

My point is, is it ok to laugh at someone because of their gender or skin colour? No. That’s not thinking before you laugh, it’s simply not being an arse. I don’t see how that’s a difficult concept to grasp.

 

The point is that if sexist, racist, homophobic, disability or other such discriminatory humour still makes a person laugh without thinking in this day and age then it is that person who has the problem, not society, or 'cancel culture' or any such 'anti-woke' bollocks.
It's no longer seen as acceptable to base humour on taking the piss out of less fortunate/minority/discriminated against people because of their physical or mental characteristics or, in the case of women, old fashioned sexist ideas about their role in life. People who complain about 'political correctness gone mad' etc regarding humour, are usually people with outdated, bigoted social attitudes who resent the fact that they are no longer able to laugh at humour based on taking the piss out of those less fortunate than themselves.

 

And here come the laughter police, unbelievable Jeff..

 

Usual dismissive response that completely avoids any discussion of the actual issues.

My description a bit too close to home, eh Tony?

 

I'll not have you or anybody else dictating what I can or cannot laugh at......

 

You may, of course, laugh at what you like. And I, in turn, may challenge the things you find funny. If you you decide to take such things personally and lash out with phrases such as 'laughter police', 'political correctness', and 'woke'* in order to denigrate something you refuse to understand, it shows that, as you say, you'd rather not think about things. Which is also your right. I don't understand why, in order to defend your stance, you must seek to put down those who challenge it. It is the language of the bully. Trump did it with the disabled, war veterans, ethnic minorities, and more. Johnson did it with his 'picaninies' comment, and others. Another phrase is 'snowflake'. Used to suggest that people who don't like the right wing macho world we currently live in are weak and pathetic. Frankly, it is increasingly obvious that the real 'snowflakes' are the ones crying because they are being called out for bullying people. It's all very well to feign innocence and say 'oh, why can't we just laugh at each other' when we're not really laughing at each other, are we? I get that it's hard to have your safe protected world challenged but if maybe you could think for just a little bit, you might see that no one wants to stop you laughing at what people do, they'd maybe just like you to stop laughing at who they are.

*See also 'happy clapper' and many others used on this forum to suggest intellectual/moral/football/economic superiority over someone who either has a different opinion or even offers a comment that turns out to be mistaken, misguided, or simply incorrect.

 

Erm, no you can't mate, mind your own business...

 

I think you just made my point.

Social attitudes change over time. We used to allow bear-baiting and c0ck fighting, and rich people had no problem with young children climbing their chimneys to sweep them. Now we don't do those things.
In the same way, we used to have people and programmes on TV that based their humour on racism, misogyny, homophobia and disableism. Now we don't.
As social attitudes evolve there are always some people who find it hard to leave the old, discredited ways behind.

 

Times change thankfully, most move with it, while others get left behind and more alienated.

 

You've taken our statues, you'll not take our humour..

 

And others cant laugh because we may offend someone.....i preferred it 20-30 years ago. At least then folk had a choice either way. Now the pitch forks and lanterns are out, jobs are lost and folk are ridiculed on social media. Even a knock at the door...

 

You see, you can still be funny without being offensive. Well done you.

 

Sadly, too many of them are getting elected these days.

 

You can laugh at whatever ya like, just don't play victim when you're called out on shitty behaviour.

 

Fair enough. And by the same token, dont moan when the electorate rejects those pushing this agenda from gaining power.

 

A sad world when you are told what to laugh at by thought police. Some things are clearly abusive but then humour is subjective. But then from my own perspective I am very very hard to offend when it comes to comedy.

 

The people making the racist, sexist, homophobic etc jokes, and those laughing at those jokes, had a choice. But the disadvantaged groups who were the butt end of those jokes, did not.

Social tolerance of those jokes served to prolong the prejudicial attitudes underpinning them and exacerbated the discrimination of those groups.
Some people who are not in any of those groups, and who don't care whether disadvantaged groups are discriminated against, are happy to carry on with the prejudicial jokes and resent the fact that they get called out for making or laughing at them. I'm not saying that applies to you but it certainly does to many.