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  1. Ulysses S Grant

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    Spot on, GA will be sat there thinking I can get a 20 plus goal striker in for absolutely nothing. It's a dream situation for him to be in, he won't have any thoughts about "what if he fires blanks here" or at least no more than he would with a total unknown to BCAFC
     
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  2. Onside

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    Just for the record Rupp and Sparks please do not bugger up Jake’s return. I would like the manager to say if he wants him then he stays and plays for City.

    We must not let him go cheaply if we have to let him go. We says to all comers including Swindon that we will not accept any bids south of £500,000. Then. It will ve down to Jake and the club to get the best price.


    However, sometimes as fans we are pitifully downbeat about our players. Let’s grab the offer without a second thought for the future. We signed Jake for the future an investment because someone at the club saw good potential and I agree with them. Here we are not welcoming him back but trying to flog him off just in case he doesn’t carry on scoring and we will lose the money. FFS.

    If that wasn’t bad enough we have pressure coming in from Swindon’s rear guard to say he doesn’t want to come back to Bradford. Continually asking him the question as if he going to say he hasn’t enjoyed his stay in Wiltshire. No doubt his agent fancies a car something and is also putting him under. None of the above matters Jake is not their player and never has been. He has pushed them up the league be bloody grateful and leave the lad alone it is not his decision either.

    If we want to get out of this league we are going to need good players like Jake Young.
     
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  3. Rogered Tart

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    There would be no point Ryan East coming back to Bradford, he's now 25 and played less than 50 games at football league level. Certainly isn't gonna get game time at VP and we need to be looking at better if we want to progress.
     
  4. Offcomedun

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    We can’t play him if we intend to sell him. So - unless that decision has already been made - the sensible thing is to get him back, talk to and listen to him, see where his head’s at, watch him in training for a couple of weeks and then assess whether he can productively fit into our style of play, or not, and whether he will be a positive or disruptive influence.
    No need to rush into a decision straight away. There’ll surely be desperate clubs looking for a striker at the back end of January and we might even engineer a bidding war at that point if we decide not to keep him.
    I guess one argument against that approach, however, is if we want the money in early in order to buy other players, especially as we urgently need cover for Walker and Pattison.
     
  5. bantam2708

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    I would like to keep Young, but as a principle, I'm not against selling him.

    Problem is, I have no confidence in Sparks to sell him for a good price or our ability to reinvest that fee into the squad.
     
  6. Jordan

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    £300k?... for which leg? Why would we purposefully shoot ourselves in the foot? Young goal scorers are worth their weight in gold. And most young forwards only have a small period of boom to base some worth. Look at Watters the other year going for a million. Langstaff has had 6 months of EFL football and Notts want over £1.5m.

    Wimbledon wont entertain offers under £1m for Ali Al-Hamadi, who has 27 goals in 48 apps over the last year. Before that, he scored 4 in 23 for Bromley and Wycombe combined. Similar age to Young and so far this season Young has a better goals per game to with Jake at 0.73 to Ali 0.59 goals per game, has a better shot conversation rate with Youngs at 29% Ali is at 19%, and both have a near identical shot on target rate but rounding up, Youngs is 55% and Ali is 56%.

    Why would we say to the CH or L1 clubs looking down the pyramid for the next young striker on form who they can buy and move on for a profit, that we own one of the 2 best young and on form forwards in the EFL, let alone the division, and you can buy one for the third of the price of the other? It's brainless. Best thing to happen if a sale is the route was Wimbledon publicly putting a price on Ali, as it gives us the right to go "this is the market, bid near 7 figures or do one".
     
  7. Onside

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    Absolutely spot on. I incensed with this thread!

    Firstly I want Jake to stay and help us into league 1. How much money will we lose if we don’t get promoted this season?
    2. What does it say about our club that we are prepared to sell a very good young striker for peanuts. It says to me that we are an average club that wants to stay where we are!!!
    3. I can’t remember which thread I said this on but I wouldn’t be prepared to sell him for less than half million. I wasn’t aware of the market value. Double it and we might have a deal, but take into account what we lose.
    4. How will that money be used? We lose a quality player and we gain nothing.


    Why tie our new managers hands? Can we as fans start behaving like we are an ambitious club and let the Board know we are totally fed up of this nonsense.
     
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    Nothing to worry about when Young is sold next week for the famous undisclosed fee,I’m sure we can rely on Stephen Gent to come up with some great replacement from the Premier league under 21s. After all he got us Costello,Nevers, Bola, Tulloch, Afoka so what could possibly go wrong.
     
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    People going on about getting rid to get funds into the transfer window :) fook me we could get £1 million in for him and i still wouldnt trust that lot to get it right and there lies the real problem in all this .............. we let Young on his way a player with a bit of potential but happy to give Derbyshire a 18 month deal on probably more money than Young :( now whoever let that deal go through needs to be held accountable i mean how many injury prone players or over the hill players do we need ???? How many more poor loan signings do we need in ?????

    Still lets hope they somehow pull something out of the window but i aint holding my breath it will be a couple of piss poor loan deals and maybe a player thats struggling to get a game at Hartlepool.
     
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    Dave, i have been married almost 40 years, you much longer. We both know who wears the trouser's in our households. and i have my wife's permission to say so.
     
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    Our model is not sustainable, quite the opposite of sustainable, it's living hand to mouth. Blowing a competitive league budget on a large number of over paid under performing players (put Smallwood firmly in that category for me) , and then selling what coveted assets you have to try and salvage the books.

    Every season we stay in L2 we become that little bit more entrenched there.
     
  12. Dennis

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    That's very true. It was done by sleight of hand imo. The club comprised two separate companies at the time. One company, the club really, was owned by the other, the holding company. The holding company was owned by the shareholders, the Rhodes and Richmond families. The company which 'owned' the club made a loss every year amounting to several millions. The holding company charged the club nearly £8m in so-called management fees which increased the club's losses even further. The holding company booked the management fee which it effectively charged itself as 'profit'. This profit for the holding company was then paid out as dividends in real cash! GR also received an additionak £250k each season paid into one of his own companies as a service fee. Where did the cash come from to pay the dividends? The club had taken on board lots of loans for rebuilding the ground and funding new players. Some of the cash received by the club was itself loaned to the holding company rather than being used for its intended purposes. It came as no surprise when the club later couldn't pay its way because it had no cash left and had to seek administration.

    At that point the club had debts and other long term commitments (including to a couple of leasing companies which paid the transfer fees on a couple of players) amounting to just over £36mill. And this happened 20 years ago so heaven knows what the equivalent values would be in today's footballing world.

    To answer @NorthernMonkey@NorthernMonkey s point about the Rhodes'. Yes they were equally culpable and received the dividends in the same way GR did. The Prof admitted later that they put too much trust in GR and should have questioned him more. But of course they didn't.
     
  13. Bantam-in-Greece

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    They wouldn't have gone up if it wasn't for Hughes bottling it.
     
  14. 1975citygent

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    We are all speculating on what Jake Young is thinking. Personally if I was him I certainly wouldn't be over excited about the stature of the club's showing interest in me. If he cracks on here and adds another 7/8 goals to his tally he will be in more demand in the summer, probably from better, more established clubs than Carlisle, Exeter or Port Vale.
     
  15. Mickey bantam

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    How many strikers in this league who have scored the same amount of goals as Young come January have had a 800,000 price tag put on them and have sold in the last few years ? Quite a few , so I don't blame Sparks for holding out for 500,000 instead of letting players go on the cheap as previous Chairmen / CEO's have done at this club. Charlie Wyke and Wells went for nothing really compared to what Peterborough would have got for them if they had been their players so its good to see a little backbone for once.
     
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    No doubt we will give it a go, but this squad hasn't shown the consistency or ability to challenge. Needs a massive kick in the arse for this lot to make up the gap and then keep the pace.

    Having home games in hand is all well and good, if you can win at home. Think I saw over the weekend we have 28 wins from our last 81 home games, going back to the start of the 20/21 season. Being at home hasn't been the aid it should be.
     
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    Nonsense!
     
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    'If we can get £200k for Young, lets sell' @Park bantam@Park bantam

    'But there is no money in the pyramid for L2 players' @Kevin1954@Kevin1954
     
  19. Jordan

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    At any other club, if Young was Swindons player for example and you were watching this from the outside, not in a million years would anyone on this forum think one is significantly lower valued than the other. It's crazy.

    A title on the CV too. I dont get it.
     
  20. SteveC

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    It would be absolutely criminal If he isn’t recalled on January 1st

    Cook a fraction of the player he was last season, Oliver been out for 8 months or whatever and still to prove himself, Smith still finding his feet

    We have been pathetically goal shy all season, while the leagues highest scorer fires Swindon up the table

    Bring him back at the first opportunity
     
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