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  1. Offcomedun

    Offcomedun Important Player
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  2. Dennis

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    That's so true. In many aspects of life from the trivia to the enormously important, we are all capable of adopting an entrenched before the facts of the situation can be established. Once those polarised views have been articulated - often for reasons unconnected with the particular incident - it becomes very difficult to change them even if and the facts don't support them.

    There was a spokesman for one of the warring factions being interviewed earlier this morning about the faulty missile or airstrike (depending on your view!)which destroyed the Gaza hospital killing so many. He made the point as you'd expect that it was the other side who created the tragedy. He listed several other aspects to the war which demonstrated the atrocities the other side had already perpetrated and this was another example. Importantly, he said he had evidence that it was the other side who had done this and not us, guv. Asked to share the evidence with an international audience, he denied the request and lost his cool in doing so. His argument was twofold; firstly that his word should be good enough and secondly that opinions were already set in concrete and presenting the facts wouldn't change that. The inference being sod the evidence and the real facts, all that mattered was winning the argument in the court of public opinion. I'd like to think that in the fullness of time, the real facts can be established but I really doubt that will happen. How often do we see that kind of thing?
     
  3. Keefly Bantam

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    The sad thing about all this is that you can believe both sides would bomb the hospital for their own agenda.

    What a desperately inhumane situation we see unfolding in front of our eyes.
     
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    Not sure about that, the actual people that have their belief's and go about their daily religious duties far outweighs theses nutters who claim to be religious people, for me its not a matter of believing or not believing but how you go about with regards your belief's, I have mine but would never think of knocking on someone's door trying to tell them their beliefs are wrong and my God is the one true God.
     
  5. Faithful Bantam

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    They have the powers, just not the will.
     
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  6. NorthernMonkey

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    Yeah, apparently it can also just means "struggle".

    It's a wonder that I've never used about 7 o clock every morning when it's time to empty my bowels.
     
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  7. Edin Nowhere

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    As it currently stands, last night a number of people posted themselves on TikTok spray painting bugs white, green and red, stormed McDonalds whilst wearing face coverings and released all the bugs in the kitchen area last night, when families were literally sat yards away. On the back of that this morning both Starbucks and McDonald are closed after having all their windows smashed.

    The T&A have said absolutely nothing in their paper about this, however there is a story about how a shipley dad is upset that his breed of dog his being banned and how someone is selling a pokemon card.
     
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    I see the T&A have pushed the narrative for yesterdays mindless vandalism as,

    "It is understood the attacks were part of a pro-Palestine protest."

    It's not a pro Palestine protest, it's an ill informed anti-semitic attack. Lets call it out for what it is. Would anyone ever be called a pro unionist protest for smashing up an Irish pub?
     
  9. Rogered Tart

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    Can't upset the natives can we?
     
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    I always have my sound turned down.

    The precaution is required from being in a lads WhatsApp group.
     
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  11. Rogered Tart

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    More nutritional value and flavour if you ate the box.
     
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  12. Chippy

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    Go and eat at mother hubbards to even it up
     
  13. Rogered Tart

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    Bless em, they were outside MacDonalds again on Ingleby road with their sweet little flags and their green smoke canisters. Fact that most of them will have eaten at that 'restaurant' before jumping on the Muslims versus the West bandwagon, the irony will be lost on them. Cos lets face it that's what it is now, a systematic attack on whats called the western world and its values.
     
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    Notice how all Western cities are now infiltrated, protests all over the western world, places like Europe, the US even places like Australia. Hey, i've no real dog in the fight, they can all kill each other for all i care. But this has gone beyond just what used to be a fight between two warring factions in the middle east, because of the mass immigration allover the world its now on everyones doorstep.
     
  15. Edin Nowhere

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    Pictures of them on twitter attacking a KFC. Someone mentioned that there isn't even a KFC in Israel.

    These planks are so ill informed, which is what you would expect to be fair.

    There is also another video of these trans people supporting people in a free Palestine march and the march telling them their lifestyle is incompatable.

    Keighley had them marching today with green smoke bombs etc.
     
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    The entire met police will be out to ensure no one gets close as the even is usually televised and has members of the government and royal family in attendance. However when they have gone it's likely to be a free for all. Seeing as this weekend we saw on the steps of City Hall people spouting bile and chanting in support of Hamas, I fear that local remembrance day events won't go undisturbed.
     
  17. Rogered Tart

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    It was never anything to do with asylum seeking or persecution. It was the systematic migration of young predominantly Muslim men into Western society on a scale never seen before. Only Poland and Hungary stood against it.
     
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    The only issue I have with this figure is that it's Hamas who are pushing the casualty figures for Palestine, and it is in their interest to push the figures up. When that hospital was hit, it was said 500 died. They also said it was the IDF who hit the hospital. since then it appears clear that this was a "friendly fire hit" and most of the damage was to a car park.

    If Hamas told me today was Tuesday I would ask for a second opinion.

    There is no doubt however that innocent people and civilians are being killed but as long as Hamas exist history will keep repeating itself. You can not appease a terrorist organisation, Afghanistan showed that by not destroying the Taliban they just come back.

    It might have some short term pain but Hamas need destroying entirely otherwise the long term pain will be far far worse.
     
  19. bantamdave41

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    Whatever international 'influence' can be asserted, needs to continue though I have major doubts with the stance of the US and it's allies.
    The deaths of innocent people on either side is horrendous and should be condemned by all. The images are appalling coming from Gaza , as they were from Israel.

    @Park bantam@Park bantam I'm totally with your thinking and the international community should do more. We should not see the slaughter of innocent people.
     
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    If it routes out the "Corbynists" who have been hiding in plain sight so be it. Lets be honest Imran Hussain isn't doing this over morals, he's just looking at the electorate in Bradford and making sure he isn't deselected and keeping the electorate onside for the next election.
     
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