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Hopkin to go?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Ricky, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. stubgate13

    stubgate13 Fringe Player

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    Surely after all this Edin has learned he knows nothing about football and needs a manager who knows what's he's doing. If there is legs in this and it's because Edin isn't giving Hopkin what he needs or allowing him to develop his own ideas then tbh Edin deserves the criticism he will be facing.
     
  2. Craven Cottager

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    Depends if matron has upped your medication.
     
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  3. SimonW

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    He has already brought one in though. And he wouldn’t have been told 'you can bring anyone out of contract player no matter the wage demands' after all there are FFP regs in league 1 aren’t there (or does it not extend beyond the championship). Unless he has had free transfers blocked that are within the wage budget which would seem odd as players have been on trail according to the transfer thread then why go through the motions
     
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  4. Onside

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    Well you can call him gutless if it fits with how you see things. For me he is a genuine type of bloke, and for him to walk, it would mean he hasn’t been given what he was promised.
     
  5. TallinnBantam

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    Saw the post on FB and ignored it as rumour.

    BUT. If he does go, then it's fairly obvious that Greg is going to be given the reigns, perhaps as temp manager until January, when someone can be appointed at the same time they can bring in players. Who comes though is anybodies idea.
    IF he does go, it's down to a few reasons. One being that he wasn't supplied with what he asked (and maybe was a key reason for him taking the job). Those asks could be his own backroom staff (your guess is as good as mine why the board are not agreeing to this). Another ask could be for money in January and it's not happening. And another ask could be that he has 100% of the team and that isn't the case
    Or, as mentioned it could be a case that he's leaving to save face. Perhaps he's got a few contacts within the management network who have seen his plight, and offered him a way out. Assistant manager, or a manager of a less controlling, less demanding league club would suit him.
    IF he does walk for the latter reason though, I think it also shows he's a bit quick throwing in the towel. Yeah results have not gone his way, but that's because he's playing with a team he's inherited rather than put together himself. Would just be an admission of bad team management imo.
     
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  6. SimonW

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    Since when has 'genuine' and 'gutless' been mutually exclusive. The job level and the pressure can be too big for you as often happens. Bradford City, after all, would seem a bigger more pressured job than Livingston


    On the staff. His assistant at Livingston was David Martindale who seems to be still at Livingston so is under contract. Mind you I'm not sure anyone would want to bring him down as his role at Livingston is apparently really controversial right now due to

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/livingston-fcs-david-martindale-cough-13178358

    Anyone who thinks any club would hire him without question is deluded.

    The rest of the backroom staff also seemed to sign new deals rather than leave apart from John Hartson, he seemed to want to focus on his media commitments but I might be wrong. Maybe he is someone Hopkins might and could bring in
     
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  7. Onside

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    I just thought you were a bit quick to jump to the conclusion that he was being gutless on a rumour.
     
  8. broadsword

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    100% agree. He shows no signs of being gutless whatsoever.
     
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  9. How

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    Hopkin on pulse saying we have made offers to out of contract players and they are waiting until Monday to decide!?

    Must be offering pay as you play or maybe going for players who are wanting big money but trying to tempt them with a short term deal?
     
  10. Fordy117

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    If highly embarrassing when the club you love even want to penny punch when it comes to getting the right management staff on board.

    So, what if they're in contract? In contract with bloody Livingston not Liverpool.

    Wow this club is in a shi&e place.

    Get Edin out!!
     
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  11. How

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    If one was Sebastian bassong I hope
    We are not waiting until Monday for his answer
     
  12. SimonW

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    Buying them out of their contracts even at Livingstone won’t exactly be insignificant. You also have to offer them deals on top of that to make moving down to England worthwhile. You may also have to cancel contracts of existing staff which is further costs. All that comes out of the budget that could otherwise go on getting players. I'm sure most managers would prefer bringing in players and waiting for their staff than spend lots of getting the staff in but find it impacts moves for players
     
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  13. Petrov

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    I don't care who they are. If an out of contract player isn't chomping at the bit to get back involved asap, they aren't the type of character we need right now.
     
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    It always surprised me when out of contract players just keep sitting there when they have offers on the table. If you don’t want to sign a longer term deal then fine but why not agree to a rolling month by month deal. A less desirable club gets a good player for a while and the player puts themselves in the shop window
     
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  15. Fordy117

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    You need your own staff around you.

    So we can't afford compo for staff? It was clear when looking for a manager in the summer that we didn't want to pay compo.

    BRADFORD CITY HAVE NO MONEY!!!

    So in Jan we won't be paying fees for quality players!

    We need Edin out! We will go down this season with Edin and Abbott pulling strings.
     
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  16. Bronco

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    Didn't Hopkin say he lived locally, York/ Harrogate way, or is it my mind playing games ?.

    Nowt wrong with my grey matter mate :unsure:.
     
  17. Petrov

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    Exactly, it's nearly the end of October ffs, it's not like they've got clubs queuing up and fighting over them.
     
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    Have you donated to the plight yet @Fordy117@Fordy117?
     
  20. cjunluck

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    Edin already deserves the criticism, where have you been
     
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