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Well, it's clear as day what Trevor Sinclair's real views are. He's anti-white and he's a stone cold racist.

My guessing is, he bottles his real views up when he's sober, and once he's had a drink he spurts them out, i.e calling police "white c*nts", or tweeting that black and brown people shouldn't mourn the Queen.

People like Trevor only cause division and shouldn't be given a platform.

 

Why is flying a flag more patriotic than not doing so? americans are less modest and more show offs. flag flying is what you should expect from a more simple minded person or people.

Americans are less likely to support paying taxes to help their fellow american. More likely to fear others. Hardly patriotic.

Singing anthems and revering a monarch, flying a flag etc. is arbitrary. Its not true patriotism its just symbolism.

Paying your taxes, supporting the NHS, joining the army, police, fire service, being a nurse, volunteering, are much more valuable forms of patriotism that actually measure a persons worth than flying a flag or joining a 9 mile queue.

 

It absolutely does me how the majority of the country fall for this cosplay shite and treat them as our betters.

 

Admiration for the Queen, yes, but there is another, more important element behind that: a deep-rooted respect for the institution of the monarchy and its 1000+ years of history, rituals, and traditions, of which we, the subjects, are a part. It binds us together as a nation. Of course it helps greatly when the reigning monarch is admirable in his or her own right. I cannot imagine feeling the same way about, say, Edward VIII, and I am certainly glad that Charles, not Andrew, was the eldest son. One would still respect the position -- rather like in saluting, where one really is showing respect to the position and not the person holding the position -- but that would be all.

I will not presume to put words in Cold_Collation's mouth, but can take a stab at interpretation and commentary.

There are people around in -- I'd say -- all of our Western/European-based countries who behave as if we should be ashamed of the past and present of our countries, whether they explicitly say so or not. (Witness the Canadian Prime MInister, who is indeed good at apologising but somewhat lacking in more important leadership qualities.) I think CC's "unashamed" comment follows on naturally from the preceding paragraphs criticising these types of people. I don't see it as meaning one cannot ever be critical of elements of one's country, or that being critical automatically makes one ashamed of one's country. But one's criticisms should be reasoned and moderate. Indeed we cannot change the past, and indeed we have no responsibility for what our ancestors did. That they could have done things differently is not in doubt -- but that is said with the benefit of hindsight.

It's late. To be continued.

RCB

 

A sad day if it’s the case

 

Queen Elizabeth II RIP.

A icon of our times. A light for all of us to follow when times were dark. You are missed already.

 

What an ignorant bast@rd

 

Saw the following on Arrse. Those of you who served will probably know of that site; I never did, but various family members have indeed "loitered in the way of harm" (as one ex-soldier once put it) in the Queen's service. There are a couple of good threads there; a few have linked to tributes from Obama and Macron; both are particularly touching.

The second Elizabethan age has ended; any future Elizabeth will have quite the job on her hands to come up to the standards of the first two!



RCB

 

Singing the national anthem in the San Siro for Italy away in 2 weeks time is going to be a weird feeling .

GSTQ

 

Were they referring to Cookie...?

 

I’d happily fly the flag if it actually achieved anything, it doesn’t. Virtue signalling nonsense.

I’ve been to America, deepest Georgia, no less. Most of it’s just for show, “Look at my massive flag, fluttering in the wind, it’s bigger than yours, ergo, I’m a better American” is literally the mentality, it’s an obsession and it’s weird.

 

The flag represents country, to me. The requirement for it to represent king is entirely superfluous. Plenty of countries have no monarchy yet still respect their flag.

 

That pic will have a few of our resident lefties on here squirming i'm sure..

 

Just read that apparently 5.1bn watched the funeral

 

Once again another great post @River_City_Bantam.

 

So neither have an influence on your day to day life you just have this figmentation in your head, they aren't the government they don't make laws or make you do anything you don't want to do, as I say many people don't sing the national anthem, I've never thought of myself as a subject you do worry about trivial things.
Although the topic is with regards the death of our Queen you can't make a post without bringing the EU into it, but yes they made decisions that affected my life and every other person who lived in a country that was a member of the EU I'd have thought you know that.

 

Buckingham Palace has just announced that Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth 2nd has passed away.
RIP your Majesty.

 

She gone down quickly since her hubby passed.

R.I.P