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Wasn't there another indecent quite recently STAGED in another hospital with a member of the general public questioning Boris, it later turned out he's an active member of the Labour party, that was bad enough but that stunt was a disgrace yesterday, just shows the level politics has stooped.

 

BREXSHIT

 

The bit where you didn't explain your one eyed political leanings.

 

If that's your personal experience and opinion then there can't be many arguments but reading your last few posts it almost comes across as you're defending the issue in your party by arguing that another party is much worse.

Maybe that's where the whole problem lies in that it's being made more acceptable because instead of racism being tackled instantly and at the source, those in power are happy to sling mud and say vote for us because we're a little bit less racist than them and using excuses like Brexit to deflect from their inability to get their own house in order.

 

It's crystal clear from this that the pic was genuine and the attempts to discredit it were the hoax. This is from the editor of the Yorkshire Evening Post, that fact checked and broke the story before it went national:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/11/paper-story-jack-williment-barr-online-lies-yorkshire-post?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

 

I'm not defending the issue in my party. It's a real issue that needs to be rooted out and stopped. There is a small number of very left wing idiots who are virulently anti-Semitic because they have crackpot beliefs about global Jewish capitalist conspiracies. They are a tiny fraction of the membership but the distress they cause is very real and the damage they do to the LP is massively disproportionate to their numbers. I am highly critical of Corbyn for failing to stamp this cancer out firmly and quickly. He hasn't done so because most of these crackpots support him. He is not a racist but he has failed to deal with those that are.
However, the anti-Semitism issue is complicated. There are many LP members, myself included, who are very critical of the current hard right Israeli government because of its treatment of the Palestinians and it's continual illegal land grabs. These members are not anti-Semitic. But the conservative Jewish establishment in Britain wants to define any criticism of Israel's government, however justified, as anti-Semitism. Corbyn's failure to deal with the real antisemites in the party has allowed the two issues - genuine anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel - to become conflated and the media has dismally failed to distinguish between the two. This has given the impression to the general public that the LP is rammed full of anti-Semites, when nothing could be further from the truth.
There are many Jewish LP members, and other Jewish people, who are very critical of Israel and of the unelected British Jewish 'leadership'. Non religious Jews are 50% of the British Jewish population but the 'leadership' is totally synagogue-based and its uncritical support for the Israeli government does not represent the views of many British Jews.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/statement/jewish-voice-for-labour-lobbies-bbc-over-election-coverage-bias/

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/fifty-times-jeremy-corbyn-stood-with-jewish-people/

 

As much as it’s understandable to walk off it simply isn’t the right thing to do.

The perpetrators need to be caught, heavily punished, fined and banned and move on.

Keep hurting them with high technology and heavy fines it’ll soon stop, without the need for teams to walk off.

 

I'm not sure about waiving the fine, it may well be a standard figure and they were powerless to waive it if they'd gave kicked them out. We've certainly seen similar spineless events from the FA in modern times.

I certainly agree with all of your points about walking off though, I'm far from sure it will have the desired impact anyway and in the end it only really harms the fans. Especially those who have travelled long distances up and down the country of even abroad.

I was more asking what ideas you had about procedures you'd put in place. It's a difficult and sensitive subject and people's answers on this vary wildly which obviously suggests there aren't any easy answers.

 

Gary Neville blamed Boris Johnson for fuelling racism after last nights disgusting behaviour by racist Man City fans. What an idiot!. The neanderthal shown making monkey gestures is probably too thick to even know who Boris Johnson is

 

We won't agree on this, but Gary Neville is spot on.
The level of racial abuse has increased massively since the result of the Brexit referendum. It's created a climate in which more people now think it's ok to be openly hostile to people who look different from them. Johnson's (and Trump's) use of language exacerbates that trend by seemingly making it ok to use derogatory language about minority ethnic groups. And not everyone who perpetrates racial abuse is thick.

 

I think you are about the same age as me. So, do you not remember the high level of racism against footballers in the 70's then?. Yesterdays latest disgusting incident has nothing whatsoever to do with Boris Johnson or Brexit

 

What a load of catmuck, the two are not intertwined!

You have social media, and a desire to be "noticed", give some "outrage" and some dunderheads will repond, negatively or positively, the current political events do not cross their minds. It is spectacularly illuminating that you you used the names "Johnson" and "Trump" but not another's in a day when some horrendous anti-semtic opinions have been made public from anothers party's members and that party's reluctance to deal with the complaints laid bare.