Greta Thunberg

Many people don’t want to make changes, and especially if they are being told by a teenager. Yet, we see how inept some grown ups can be at running things and we get told constantly how politicians are all apparently liars etc, no doubt by the same people. So it crosses age boundaries, still i think many do ‘listen’ more to them secretly, than they claim.

I think it boils down to many just not wanting to make sacrifices for the benefit of other people. I find it hard to understand how some individuals don’t think people are having a negative influence on this planet and that it can just cope with anything we throw at it. But that’s largely it, we think we are above everyone else, but we are not. We think humans can solve everything. I do worry for what the future will be like for my kids, and there’s this teenager who thinks like that too. I can’t really blame her. I can’t help think we are closing the stable door after the horse has bolted tbh, but I applaud her for speaking passionately about what she believes in. Yes people can make changes, but ultimately it’s the big industries and new cleaner mass market technology that would make a bigger impact, it’s such a complex issue tbh but small steps forward and acknowledging the problem are a step in the right direction.

 

Anyone see that pic of her sailing away and a giant plastic bottle of Evian in the cup holder. Isn't she supposed to be against plastics etc. as they are killing the oceans.

 

Right or wrong she is a pain in the arse,

 

And another one:


This has very little to do with Greta Thunberg, her views on climate change or her age.

If she was instead spouting some right wing claptrap the same ones that currently object to her will be praising her no end for challenging the status quo and being a true patriot.

 

Life would be a whole lot easier if people just admitted they couldn’t give a rats arse, rather than going round the houses with meaningless arguments about iPhones.

 

Ah, there it is, I knew it wouldn't be long.

It all sounds just like the whole Brexit argument again where one side claims the other side are "thick" and "racists" if they don't agree.

It's as predictable as it is laughable.

 

This is what I hate about social media today. A young girls fighting for a cause she believes in, and adults of a left and right persuasion are using it to point score. People on the right saying she’s been groomed, people on the left enjoying provoking people on the right saying how funny their reaction is. Yet it’s hypocrisy if she was peddling some right wing agenda people on the left would be saying it’s a disgrace that a young girls been manipulated/groomed.

No wonder the worlds going down the pan, sensible debate between opposites has died. It’s who’s horse is the highest now. It’s the same in politics, if you can’t win by being popular win by discrediting the opposition. Instead of debate they throw around words like Racism, xenophobia and antisemitism.

 

Absolutely 100% correct. Great post WB

 

No, it's fundamentally different.
Brexit is clearly a political/economic issue where whichever side you are on is a matter of personal political opinion. I fundamentally disagree with Brexiteers but I accept their right to have a different opinion from mine.

Climate change is a fact. It's happening and every credible scientist on the planet accepts this and knows that massive change is required. Believing that climate change isn't happening, or isn't a problem or isn't exacerbated by human activity is ridiculous. It's like believing that the earth is flat.

 

I was referring to the Twitter post and the point made by posting it, not comparing the actual issues directly.

 

I didnt realise she had Aspergers, which actually makes the people pulling her strings, even more shameful for exploiting her like this

 

I don't think they want us to cut back drastically overnight and plunge the world into chaos. They want evidence of proper planning and a concerted effort, including investing in alternatives that could create as many jobs as they lose. They are also, quite rightly, outraged at people like Trump and Bolsonaro who are in positions of great power and are using it to actively reverse the limited ecological progress of the last few years.
As for the 'tantrum', she just stared Trump down. He's much more likely to throw tantrums than she is, as far as I can see.

 

If there was objectivity to begin with there would be very little point in bringing up the widescale double standards/hypocrisy taking place in the first place, mainly because it wouldn't exist. The fact that it does, is clearly widespread, and for the majority seems to be influenced entirely by political agenda as opposed to the topic in hand if anything backs up entirely what you're saying.

Truth is, we all have political bias to some degree, i know I do. Most of us at some point or another also contradict ourselves, I'm sure I've done this on many occasions. Others though let certain agendas dictate every single opinion they hold, and object to this girl for reasons completely unrelated to her work on climate change.

There's literally zero reason for anyone to be offended at bringing this issue up, and the only way it can overcome is to point the problem out, tackle it head on and individuals, on all sides of the political spectrum, accepting accountability for themselves when applicable. When that happens, the well reasoned debate you're clearly an advocate for will become slightly more commonplace.

 

I totally agree.

 

Agreed. She'll never know what it feels like to run on the pitch after a late goal against Carlisle.