George Floyd copper

This weekend Tommy Robinson and his morons will be out in force and there will be massive disorder and both sides clash.

The 99% of us stuck in the middle will all have the pick up the pieces.

 

So you are speculating that this is going to happen ?, you can see into the future ? do you do the lottery ? This happened yesterday . A lot of the people are sick to death of mindless vandalism , are you saying the damage to the statue was ok ?. Are you calling normal people who will be protecting war memorials and statues far right morons ? Most of these will be ex servicemen who have fought alongside people of al race creed and colour to protect our country , Black ex servicemen were pictured yesterday cleaning these memorials up are they far right ?.

 

What about football a third of premiership players are black how many black managers are there? How many black people in the board room . Or in the FA or EFL?. Jermaine Defoe has been told he would make a good manager but has said what’s the point in taking coaching courses.
Black people are under represented in board rooms in business. And are disadvantaged in health services and education. I certainly don’t defend this mob culture which has made an appearance recently which has been infiltrated by anarchists nor do I want the history of the culture of our country destroying. I also think this George Floyd adoration is a bit sickening when you look at his crimes including robbing a pregnant woman at gunpoint. But there is not a doubt in my mind there is a lot of inert racism in this country

 

Absolutely disgusting. Do these idiots not realise that Queen Victoria came to the throne four years after the abolition of slavery in Britain

 

I have been quite clear when I have said that Antifa have infiltrated this protest for their own cause.
Now we have Tommy Robinson pushing his own cause whilst the vast vast majority in the middle have to pick up the pieces.

There are people out there having to defend monuments because the police are turning a blind eye, however there is an element out there using this in the same way as Antifa are for their own agenda.

 

Pat Boones attempt at "Tutti Fruitti" has to be the worst I've ever heard but your correct many times they were given to white artists who should stick to ballads.

 

The police may have turned a blind eye to BLM protesters and illegal damage to statues, Tommy Robinson will be given no such leeway I suspect. Fairness to all should apply

 

His attitude is the limiting factor there then, not his race. Its exactly my point - this labelling of oppression and victimization is the problem. If the under-representation of black managers in the football league is relevant, then so are the stats about the over-representation of BAME players. Did you see my post below, which highlights the extent to which BAME communities are thriving across all walks of life? Literally half of the last England squad was BAME. Even at Bradford city, I think I'm right in saying that aside from the goalkeeper, we could've fielded an entirely BAME side last season.There's a fixation on where there's BAME under-representation, with no appetite to discuss context, and no willingness to discuss the measures which disprove the oppression narrative.

https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/george-floyd-copper.3923/page-31#post-361710

Football clubs are selfish, capitalist entities, they'll go with whoever gives them the best chance of success.

When you say 'black people are disadvantaged in health services and education', what do you mean and do you have any evidence to support that claim?

 

Lewis Hamilton , multi- millionare tax exile is jumping on the bandwagon . All statues that have any conections to slavery in the uk should be pulled down . He drives a car sponsored by Hugo- boss who manufactured Nazi uniforms in WW11 they used jewish slave labour , is car is manufactured by a company who in WW11 used jewish slave labour to manufacture war armaments VW and Audi used Jewish slave labour during WW11 , another uneducated fool , will he boycott F1 or campaign to have these companies removed from F1 ?. No because it would hit him in his tax evading pocket .

 

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read this
Read this

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/rooney-rule-black-managers-indisputable-data-football-jonathan-liew-a8379111.html

 

Take a look into Mercedes Benz roll in the nazi party too

 

I agree but dont you think common sense is taking a back seat to Hypocrisy ?. I'm in full agreement with some of the aims of BLM , but not the way its escalating and i fear its going to get a lot worse .

 

Its gone too far. I’m all for equality but when it starts to spread over here, it’s bandwagon jumping.

Saw a speech by the New York police chief I think he was. New York police have 327 million (?) interactions with the public every year. Could be wrong on those figures but it’s very high. Of course there will always be examples of bad policing and racism but to demonise a whole force is shocking.

A fair and independent review of misconduct is what’s needed. And real consequences for anyone who is out of line. However, This is becoming a witch hunt

 

Unfortunately it has been infiltrated by anarchists which transforms a justified cause into one that wants to destroy democracy

 

I've read it. It's clearly written with a racial bias in my opinion, but putting that aside, it tells us nothing we don't know. It tells us that football managers who're BAME are under represented. That more white players go into management than BAME. It assumes racial bias, but provides no evidence. It doesn't outline the number of BAME candidates applying for management jobs in the game, so its completely without context, from a historically left wing, liberal newspaper. Does it consider that maybe BAME players are less interested in going into Management? Or that perhaps they deny themselves the opportunity with attitudes like Defoe's? 'What's the point?'.

'All the data indicates that black managers do not get the same chances in the game as white managers.' They've made that statement without including all the data.

In modern football, players have far more power than managers. Players get managers the sack. Football clubs put more emphasis onto player recruitment, training, selection, coaching than they do the hiring of managers. Why would a club spend literally a hundred million pounds and put its trust in a BAME striker, who's performance will have a huge bearing on the sporting and commercial success of the club, but not recruit a BAME manager who'd be much cheaper and easier to sack/replace?
So I'll ask again, if football is systemically racist and is using the under representation of BAME managers as evidence, then why do we have such significant over representation of BAME players? Why do we now have a zero tolerance approach to racist incidents within stadiums in this country - incidents which thankfully, are a real rarity nowadays?

I can't say anything more than I've already said in the post I've linked - BAME communities are flourishing in sport and entertainment. In fact, as a proportion of the population they're dominating it.

You've also not elaborated on your 'BAME people are disadvantaged by the health and educational system'. I'm curious to know the evidence behind that one.

 

You know the world has gone mad when Walliams and Lucas are accused of racism. They are both as woke as you could get but the rules of the game as laid down by the movement being the likes of the above into the category of racism. Common sense now matters no more, if we cadtigate the likes of Jim Davidson for his Chalky impression then Walliams and Lucas should both be too.

 

I’m afraid you are burying your head in the sand. As for Health you only have to look at the figures for people dying of Covid where the disproportionate number of BAME people are losing their lives. And in Education where figures show the disparity between the indigenous population and BAME achievement

 

I'm not burying my head in anything, I'm exploring the facts. You're not, you're lacking in any sort of context.

Do you think the BAME impact from COVID is because the access and quality of healthcare discriminates? or could it be something to do with the large number of BAME employees in jobs that put them at risk? Could is be that large numbers of BAME people live in social and economic conditions that put them at risk?

 

Rule of the Mob. It's great isn't it cry the Mob, until the Mob one day turn on something that someone in the Mob holds dear....

Oh, Gone with the Wind has been taken down by HBO so it's not just the BBC.