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  1. Faithful Bantam

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    As I say, it's a slippery slope. Theres lots of moral high ground being taken. I have no sympathy for the individual, but when people are sacked for opinions that dont break the law, I think it leads to a bad place. As I've said earlier, free speech is the cornerstone of democracy and it's being eroded. That worries me.
     
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  2. Park bantam

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    It’s free speech with responsibility he has had his say so has his partner and they are being judged on it and it has been found offensive
     
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  3. Hoochy-Min

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    Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment, what if the person that organised this banner was your child's teacher. Would that change your opinion about their continuing employment?
     
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    What engineering company wants to have an employee on its books who admits to getting 'cocked up'?
     
  5. Idlebantam

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    The idiot has lost his job and will be banned from watching his team for life. I wonder if he thinks his stupid stunt was worth it now?
     
  6. Bronco

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    No worries David Lammy will be on tv today telling us it was just high spirits after observing lock down for several week.
    And Dominic Cummings is the bogey man get a grip.
     
  7. Rogered Tart

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    But but but theyre so oppressed your honour.
     
  8. Tony Wilkinson

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    Coppers keep on bending their knee to them and they're bound to see it as a weakness, as do all of us....
     
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  9. Keefly Bantam

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    Never heard of colorism before. Genuinely no pun intended but doesn't this just muddy the waters even more?

    It was this article on the BBC that I have just read that brought this to my attention.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53178088

    From Wikipedia:
    Discrimination based on skin color, also known as colorism or shadeism, is a form of prejudice or discrimination usually from members of the same race in which people are treated differently based on the social implications from cultural meanings attached to skin color.[1]

    When people think of racism it is usually against people outside of their ethnicity. Colorism highlights biases that proliferate between persons of either different or even identical ethnicity. It is the belief that someone with any degree of lighter complexion is considered to be more beautiful or valuable than someone with dark skin.[2]

    Research has found extensive evidence of discrimination based on skin color in criminal justice, business, the economy, housing, health care, media, and politics in the United States and Europe. Lighter skin tones are seen as preferable in many countries in Africa, Asia and South America.
     
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    That's not strictly true, anyone can take their employer to an unfair dismissal tribunal because there are a huge range of exceptions to the 2 year rule that makes it pretty much redundant. It's certainly a lower risk though for employers dismissing anyone serving less than 2 years but there's absolutely no guarantees.

    Do we know if the bloke in question has served less than two years or the reasons given for his sacking? I'm just wondering if this debate is irrelevant anyway?
     
  11. Storck

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    I think huge is a bit of an exaggeration


    Automatically unfair reasons for dismissal
    Even if you’ve acted reasonably, some reasons for dismissal are classed automatically unfair. These are to do with the following areas:

    • pregnancy, including all reasons relating to maternity
    • family, including parental leave, paternity leave (birth and adoption), adoption leave or time off for dependants
    • acting as an employee representative
    • acting as a trade union representative
    • acting as an occupational pension scheme trustee
    • joining or not joining a trade union
    • being a part-time or fixed-term employee
    • pay and working hours, including the Working Time Regulations, annual leave and the National Minimum Wage
    • whistleblowing
     
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    That seems a very short list? I realize you've googled it but you don't have to be legally educated to realize there's some glaring omissions.
     
  13. YungNath

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    iirc if youve been there less than a year they can just bin you off, was brought in by camerons government.

    edit: less than 2 years and you have no right to claim unfair dismissal
     
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    I’m done with Sky. No attempt at balance in any of their reporting on this vitally important subject. The part of a mainstream media narrative that’s making the problem worse.

    Talk Radio interviewed Kevin Hurley yesterday and actually gave him the time to air his views.

     
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  15. Tony Wilkinson

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    It's because they scared as we are of uncontrolled immigration legal or otherwise and uncontrolled protests, rioting and lawlessness in general.
    This government has a strong enough majority to carry their policies through and would have the backing of a large majority of decent people...
     
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  16. Bronco

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    I'm not sure the Tories are prepared to go along with taking the press and other media on, remember when Labour tried to get papers to be more responsible with their reporting (phone tapping etc) or the law might be changed to control the media the Tories were very much against it and eventually the all clear was given for the media to self regulate.
     
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  17. Campbell's soup

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    What about when you want a kebab an your in Burnley?
     
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    White takeaways matter.
     
  19. Offside

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    Not allowed , people like Anthony Joshua and Lewis Hamilton are promoting this idea . So if somebody said ok fine with that , but the day after every white person in the country boycoted black owned shops and services their would be uproar .
     
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    Well I have certainly been doing my bit for BPD been in three shops today and not one owned by a white person.
     
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