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  1. Allotment Bantam

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    I feel the same about a minutes applause in the 56th minute. The untimely and horrific death of 56 people isn't anything to applaud as far as I am concerned. Unlike remembrance of a long life well lived. People feel obliged to join in, even if they feel uncomfortable about it.
    The minutes silence is the appropriate memorial.
     
  2. Offcomedun

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    Sorry Dave, but I hate that 'the 56' expression. I feel like it commodifies the people who lost their lives.
    I know your post was heartfelt, but that phrase just grinds my gears.
     
  3. Keefly Bantam

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    A minutes silence and reflection before the last home game is sufficient for me.

    Felt really uncomfortable when the applause and chant started.

    RIP
     
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  4. Boston-Sox

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    On this Day In 1985 at Valley Parade a disgarded cigarette caused a fire that killed 59 people
    This post is made to honor those who died and those that survived and their family and friends



    IN MEMORIAM

    The names of the 56 victims of the Valley Parade Fire Disaster - 11 May 1985



    ACKROYD, John Douglas, 32, Baildon

    ANDERTON, Edmund, 68, Bingley

    BAINES, Alexander Shaw, 70, Bradford

    BAMFORD, Herbert, 72, Bradford

    BULMER, Christopher James, 11, Burley-in-Wharfedale

    COXON, Jack Leo, 76, Bradford

    COXON, Leo Anthony, 44, Halifax

    CRABTREE, David James, 30, Bradford

    CRABTREE, Harry, 76, Bradford

    DEMPSEY, Derek, 46, Morley

    FIRTH, Muriel, 65, Baildon

    FIRTH, Samuel, 86, Bradford

    FLETCHER, Andrew, 11, East Bridgford, Nottingham

    FLETCHER, Edmund, 63, Pudsey

    FLETCHER, John, 34, East Bridgford, Nottingham

    FLETCHER, Peter, 32, Gildersome

    FOSTER, Nellie, 64, Bradford

    GREENWOOD, Felix Winspear, 13, Denholme

    GREENWOOD, Peter, 46, Denholme

    GREENWOOD, Rupert Benedict, 11, Denholme

    HALL, Norman, 70, Bradford

    HALLIDAY, Peter, 34, Bradford

    HARTLEY, Arthur, 79, Bradford

    HINDLE, Edith, 79, Bradford

    HINDLE, Fred, 76, Bradford

    HODGSON, Moira Helen, 15, Oakenshaw

    HUDSON, Eric, 73, Bingley

    HUGHES, John, 64, Bradford

    HUTTON, John, 74, Bradford

    KERR, Walter, 76, Bradford

    LOVELL, Peter Charles, 43, Bradford

    LUDLAM, Jack, 55, Bradford

    McPHERSON, Gordon, 39, Bradford

    McPHERSON, Irene, 27, Bradford

    MASON, Roy, 74, Silsden

    MIDDLETON, Frederick Norman, 84, Bradford

    MITCHELL, Harold, 79, Bradford

    MUHL, Elizabeth, 21, Leeds

    NORMINGTON, Ernest, 75, Shipley

    ORMONDROYD, Gerald Priestley, 40, Bingley

    ORMONDROYD, Richard John, 12, Bingley

    ORMONDROYD, Robert Ian, 12, Bingley

    POLLARD, Sylvia Lund, 69, Bradford

    PRICE, Herbert, 78, Shipley

    ROBERTS, Amanda Jane, 20, Bradford

    SAMPSON, Jayne, 18, Leeds

    STACEY, William, 72, Sleaford, Lincoln

    STOCKMAN, Craig Albert, 14, Bradford

    STOCKMAN, Jayne Ashley, 16, Bradford

    STOCKMAN, Trevor John, 38, Brighouse

    TURNER, Howard, 41, Bingley

    TURNER, Sarah, 16, Bingley

    WARD, Simon Neil, 18, Shipley

    WEDGEWORTH, Robert, 72, Guiseley

    WEST, William James, 78, North Hykeham, Lincoln

    WRIGHT, Adrian Mark, 11, Bradford


    Remember 'The 56'


    RIP
    YNWA



    From A Liverpool Fan
     
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  5. WilsdenBantam

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    Thoughts are with all those on here and elsewhere still effected by the worst of days. Those who sadly never went home from a simple day of celebration and their families. Today is an anniversary, but I’ve seen first hand people still effected by that awful day on a daily basis, today is a reminder to treat everyone with respect.

    I always look for positives in the worst of situations, the only one is improvement of ground safety throughout the country so that nobody else ever has to go through something like this again.

    My thoughts are with everyone and the city today.

    RIP
     
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  6. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    Totally agree. Didn't like it at all on Saturday.
     
  7. Aleman

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    I really don't like the 56th minute applause. It does not feel right after years of sombre and respectful remembrance for all those affected. There were many more than 56 victims. Another 200+ were treated in hospital, which was overwhelmed, so many injured went untreated. Many were horrified by the sights they saw and developed mental health issues, including amongst the police, emergency services, hospital staff and members of the public that got caught up in it. Some survivors developed guilt complexes. The subsequent strains broke up families and caused job losses. There were thousands of victims of varying degrees. My thoughts are with the surviving relatives and friends of the dead and the very large numbers affected that horrible day. It was more than 56. Though it's upsetting to do so, today I will remember. Tomorrow, I will try forget again.
     
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    I hope that Dave (@Bronco@Bronco ) isn't offended by my post. No one could doubt that his post was well intentioned. I wasn't trying to throw him to the the wolves. No one cares more about Bradford City than Dave does.
    I just felt I had to comment on 'The 56' aspect, not the poem as a whole or the sentiments therein. I was there at the fire. I also, as a rookie social worker, visited relatives of a couple of City fans who lost their lives. I know what it means to me and others and I hate it when I see people walking around with '56' branded clothing etc. I didn't like the clapping on 56 minutes either. The quiet dignified approach that pertained until the last ten years or so was the correct one in my opinion. Some may disagree and that's their prerogative.
     
  9. Fordy117

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    I've an issue with the branded 56 hoodies etc. It's not a marketing opportunity! It's a sad thing that happened. Anyway today isn't the day to get into this.
     
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  10. Kevin1954

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    It seems to be the new “ norm” it’s crept in and almost become commonplace.

    Not really fussed, I remember in my own way. The crumpled program I got on the day is still in the house.
     
  11. Rogered Tart

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    Because it's crass?
     
  12. The_Parader

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    I class myself as very lucky that day. Maybe i was guided the right way but the memories never fade. Wish i could be there today.....i will stop and reflect.

    RIP
     
  13. Bronco

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    It encapsulated how I felt about that period, after reading it I copied & pasted it to share, I'm truly sorry If it has offended anyone it was not intended too.
     
  14. Bronco

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    Not at all Steve we all have our memories of the day and the aftermath, I have posted I'm not a fan of "The 56" merchandise and would never wear it myself others may take consolation from wearing it.
     
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    So Many Loved Ones
    Who Never Came Home
    That Friends Will Remember
    And Families Will Mourn
    Some Grieve Together
    Some Grieve Alone
    All Walks Of Life
    They Follow Their Team
    They Where Old
    They Where Young
    And Those In Their Teens
    And God When They Died
    what A terrible Thing
    But They Will Never Be Forgotten
    And We will Never Let Them Be
    You'll Never Walk Alone

    A Liverpool Fan
     
  16. Fordy117

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    Dave, is a good man. I enjoy banter with him as he can take it and give it back but lets not turn something into something it wasn't people.

    Dave means well. Unlike me who can be a major c*nt at times lol.
     
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    My late som
    My eldest son Andrew, sadly no longer with us was mascot that day after he'd done his duties we had the choice of where we could watch the match from, thankfully we decided to go stand where we normally did on the kop, "there for the grace of God" . Incidentally the 11thof May is my second sons birthday.
     
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    I didn't want to say because I know Dave meant well with his post but I'm another who hates 'the 56' branding. I can't even bring myself to applaud in the 56th minute.
     
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    Still seems like it was only yesterday.....

    My thoughts and prayers to all the families that suffered looses on that awful awful day, and to those still affected either physically or mentally I hope you are strengthened somewhat by all the people thinking about you today
     
  20. Fordy117

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    Thoughts are with all the family of the 56 and all that were there on this shocking day!

    RIP 56! You'll Never Walk Alone.
     
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