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England - Jesse Lingard

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Sergio Pinto III, Aug 30, 2019.

  1. NorthernMonkey

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    I think Southgate will take him. He seems to trust him and knows what he'll get. He's also on form which shouldn't be underestimated in tournament football.
     
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    I watched the Wolves v West Ham game and he was outstanding. I agree with Northern; don't underestimate the value of form going into tournament. Similarly, don't underestimate the value a good player who feels he has a point to prove. His form at West Ham must be an embarrassment for Solskjaer given how toothless Man Utd look in the same position Lingard plays. I'm also not convinced by Sancho, but I do like Grealish.
     
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    The Berba like spin against Wolves shows how much confidence he's playing with, well done to him.
     
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    Knowing England’s luck with form players going into a tournament he’ll be due to fall down the stairs and break his leg at any time now...
     
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    Two more goals from Lingard in the first half v Leicester. Second assisted by Bowen.
    Lingard has scored more than any other PL player in the period he's been at West Ham.
     
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    And now one from Bowen
     
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    And another from Bowen West Ham taking Leicester apart.
     
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    Weird how when he was playing well for both United and England everyone was critical of him but suddenly he joins West Ham and everyone is raving about him. The only real difference with him is that first of all a lot of teams are more adventurous against West Ham rather than sitting deep and also West Hams overall quality of attacking player is lower so while he would be used more for decoys to create space for other at United and England, West Ham are looking to find him as a more primary attacking force
     
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    That sounds a bit like sour grapes to me. Of course United have far greater attacking resources than West Ham do. But it's down to West Ham that they are playing him in a free role behind a lone striker, which gives him space to use his undoubted dribbling ability, finishing, and his quick reading of the game. He has responded incredibly well to being given responsibility and trust in a role that clearly suits him, rather than being messed about and marginalised at United.
    In his best ever season at United he scored 13 goals in 48 games. He's already scored 8 in 9 for WHU and that's why everyone is raving about him - because he's in the best form of his life. He's always been a class act- he just wasn't being treated like one.
     
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    Sour Grapes? Seriously? I have no problem with Lingard doing well, if you actually paid attention to this thread I was one of the few singing his praises while most of you were being very dismissive of him.

    As for saying United messed him about and marginalised him that shows a complete lack of understanding. He was having big issues in his personal life, he had just had a kid, then his mother got ill-meaning he had to then look after his young brother and sister and his form dropped off as real-life issues have a habit to cause. Before that he had been one of the first names on the team sheet for LVG, Jose and Ole and was an integral part of the team. He just got unlucky that this personal stuff and the drop in form due to it also coincided with United signing Bruno who has been undroppable.

    And he was largely playing the same role for United as he is West Ham. The only difference's the type of tactics WH come up against and the other options. For United we come up against teams playing low blocks more often than not. When players make runs from Lingard's position against a low block its more about causing disruption, either by being the player who makes the clever unselfish run that creates a gap to be exploited or if you get the ball it's not with lots of room to run into a goal-scoring opportunity but rather looking to be involved in the build-up, as I said elsewhere in the thread while his assist record wasn't great he was often the assisted to the assisted. It's the same with England, alot of teams will use a low block there as well to try and nullify Englands attacking threat

    At West Ham because teams don't often deploy a low block, now when he makes runs he has more space to exploit himself and when there are fewer attacking options for West Ham it simplifies the other player's choices, it's more the goto option to look for Lingard first as you don't have the likes of Rashford as other options so he naturally see's more balls played to him so he has more chances
     
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