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I don't think Corbyn is a bad bloke per se, some of his politics is well meaning and his views on things like public services should be respected. That said, there is no way on this earth he would have ever been elected prime minister and that has little to do with supposed smear campaigns. Turns out thousands of people at glastonbury shouting his name was in no way in line with how the rest of the country felt about him. It actually turns out he was that unpopular he couldn't beat arguably the worst Tory candidate in living memory in an election. Lining himself up in the past with enemies of the state has come back to bite him on the arse, you can't just erase your past. The anti semite problem would not have reared its head with other prospective leaders, yet he also had the chance to put the problem to bed but chose not to. And then surrounding himself with the most useless of shadow cabinets, dithering other Brexit, he proved in the end he should never have been in a leader ship race from the very beginning.
Labour only have themselves to blame, if i were them i'd be on the blower to David Milliband this very morning, on hands and knees begging him to come sort this mess. If he is willing and has the balls to completely clear out wasters like Diane Abbott, they might just have a chance in 5 years time.

 

You obviously have a leaning towards Corbyn and turned a blind eye to the racist slurs against Johnson then or at least only read or watched articles from a particular set of news outlets.

Imo there was untruths and nonsense reported about both sides but I will admit that perhaps there was more posted about JC and DA from social media sources.

That said, JC has had several chances to explain and deal with the anti semite accusations in his party and did little to actually tackle them head on so perhaps he is at least partly responsible for his own downfall.

 

I do not remember the TV or Newspapers saying anything that was not true or misleading regarding Corbyns past associations or political leanings, Perhaps you can tell us the comments the media made that were untruthful ?

BTW the BBC continually allowed guests and reporters to call Boris a Misogynist womanising lier when reporting of him so not one way at all,

 

I’m also a higher tax payer - but that doesn’t make my point more valid than anyone else’s.
Grow up man ffs!

 

Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser with terrorist friends. Nothing to do with the media, it's his shady past that has caught up with him.

I've seen newspaper reports from the 1980s when he was just a backbencher reporting what a filthy, disgusting, anti British traitor he really is.

 

You should be ashamed you haven't credited a link Hoochy....

 

As an op-ed rant the article was amusing enough, but with its general binariness, breathtaking assumptions about those of us who are on the 'Leave' side, its at times patronising and sneering tone, and its general I'm-better-than-you-because-I-believe-X-whilst-you-believe-Y tone it was hardly calculated to endear itself and its author to those who didn't already share his views, was it? A 'Leaver' who wishes to be insulting could produce something similar aimed at the 'Remain' side, suggesting they are all wet-behind-the-ears Mummy's boys who are afraid of, and incapable of handling, independence and responsibility! But besides the dubious satisfaction of insulting the other side, where would that get us in the greater debate? (I'm sure there are Leavers who have been so insulting, before anyone else makes that point.)

Nostalgia for a bygone past that is perhaps more imaginary than real is by no means the only, or prime, reason for wishing to be out of the EU. Nor will we be suddenly cut off from European culture and heritage once out -- though I grant the author doesn't push that point of view too far.

I found it to be just one of the many pieces *both* sides have produced that preach to the converted, but don't do anything to attract the unconverted.

RCB

 

They don’t ‘ask’, they ‘whine’

 

Not only out there, but also on here.

 

The dream team.

 

Something quite sad about the way people still think this. Neither Johnson nor Farage even give a crap about Brexit, Johnson's a remain supporter who backed leave because he knew it was his path to gaining power, Farage will keep on starting new parties and actively sabotaging the Brexit process to prolong his own time in the spotlight.
Two extremely wealthy men who have got even richer off the back of all this, and yet still claim to represent the people.

 

Name me a political leader that does actually represent our interests or even a single MP that isn't in the game just to get their snout in the trough?

I'll wait.

 

And how do you propose people who 'really do need' help are identified. The current system is inhumane enough already, people are literally dying because they're being forced to go back to work by the DWP when they're in no position to. All systems will be gamed by people, there's no way around that, but he actual percentage of fraudulent welfare claimants is so tiny as to be insignificant and I'd much rather have a system that gives unnecessarily to a few people than the one we have now which is killing people and making lives miserable.

 

It is a misnomer to think the billionaires line the vaults with money, It invested in other companies especially start up companies where the banks will not lend, It is used to provide prosperity and employment to the nation in general. They are much more likely to provide investment that works rather than governments wasting it on schemes that fail

 

This a great post and sums up whats wrong with the majority of public services.
Cut backs are a major problem but just throwing money at it won't solve the underlying problem thats always been there. Always make me laugh the 'i'd pay extra income tax to fund NHS, education etc.' It's naivety at its best. If you only knew where your 'extra' would end up? And it ain't to where its most desperately needed, at the frontline of these services in infrastructure and personnel.
If someone comes along and is willing to give the public sector its biggest radical shakeup since it inception and convince me it ain't just a pledge that would be ignored then i'll break my rule and vote in the next general election. Buts its gonna have to be someone with a big set of balls because you are gonna upset a lot of people who are milking the public sector dry of money that should be going toward where its needed most.

 

I was under the impression we still are and have been for the last 44 years, have we just realised since we're coming out of the EU ?..

 

From 1990 and now been released to coincide with the upcoming election?

Amazing eh?