Edin interview in the times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/league-clubs-angry-over-cost-of-top-flight-loans-v5l7kv8pn

You have to subscribe to read the whole thing though.

 

The blokes a cancer for this club

Edin OUT!

 

We could be a feeder club for Macclesfield.

 

Defamation of character !! End of thread

 

League clubs angry over cost of top-flight loans
exclusive
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter


August 17 2018, 12:01am, The Times



Rahic, the Bradford City chairman, says loan players should be free

Clubs in Sky Bet League One and Two are up in arms over the rising costs that Premier League sides are imposing when they send out players on loan.

A number of chairmen have raised concerns with the EFL’s leadership about the issue — one chairman has even called for League One and Two clubs to agree a cap on the amount that they will pay towards a top-flight player’s wages.

Another chairman wants to see lower-league clubs permitted to form formal relationships to become feeder clubs for top sides.

The League One and Two clubs feel they are providing first-team opportunities to develop players for the top sides but are also expected to pay increasing amounts to do so. They can also be “fined” by the loaning club if the player does not make a specified number of first-team appearances.

Liverpool are one of a number of leading clubs who impose clauses in their loan agreements that impose financial penalties — up to hundreds of thousands of pounds — if the player does not appear in three-quarters of the matches for the club where he is on loan.

EFL sources say that several ideas are being considered to reduce tensions over the issue. The numbers of players involved are significant — three years ago a survey found 156 Premier League players were out on loan, with 84 of these at EFL clubs.

Clubs can still arrange loans until the end of August, and so far 50 deals have been done for Premier League players — 23 to the Championship, 16 to League One and 11 to League Two.


Solanke, while at Chelsea, was sent on loan to VitesseGETTY IMAGES

Concerns about loan payments were raised at a meeting of League One and League Two chairmen with Shaun Harvey, the EFL’s chief executive. One of the proposals raised suggested that there should be a cap of £1,000 per week paid by League One clubs for a loan player or £500 for a League Two side. That proposal has not been taken up, but EFL chiefs are reviewing the situation.

Edin Rahic, the chairman of Bradford City, is not convinced that a cap would work but said that he would like to see the opportunity given to be a feeder club for top Premier League sides, as happens in his native Germany.

Rahic also believes there is an argument that League One and Two clubs should not have to pay anything towards loan players from the top flight.

He told The Times: “We provide game time and development opportunities to young players on loan from Premier League clubs so I don’t think we should even have to pay for them.

“That could, however, cause problems about how it is decided which club should receive the player on loan and it may then come down to informal relationships and be a grey area in terms of governance and transparency.

“I believe that feeder clubs should be allowed so that a Premier League club can have a formal relationship with teams lower down the league and use them to develop young players. This is a system that works well in other countries.”

Feeder clubs are not permitted in English football but the biggest Premier League clubs are now increasingly using teams based abroad to develop their players.

Chelsea has a relationship with Vitesse Arnhem, through which 23 players have gone on loan there since 2010. Manchester United have had a long relationship with Royal Antwerp in which Jonny Evans, Tom Heaton, Darron Gibson and Ryan Shawcross cut their teeth in Belgium while coming through the United ranks.

Manchester City have recently bought a stake in Girona, a Spanish top-flight club, and had four players there on loan last season.

 

You haven't told the full story there. It is a reciprocal arrangement where the feeder club gets first tabs on loan players from the club they are linked to.

 

Cheers @bantamdave41

 

Can't see us picking up too many PL loans this season...

Fair play to Edin though. Having a bit of a rant against the big clubs and their business models. Won't change anything though.

 

[QUOTE="Hulmebantam, post: 85647, member: 110"]Can't see us picking up too many PL loans this season...

Fair play to Edin though. Having a bit of a rant against the big clubs and their business models. Won't change anything though.[/QUOTE]

I thought that, too.
Great Edin has spoken out ......... But he may have muckied his ticket in doing so.
I note Liverpool were mentioned - Perhaps it explains why no loanees were forthcoming from them, last season ?

 

He doesn’t actually say that though does he

 

I thought that, too.
Great Edin has spoken out ......... But he may have muckied his ticket in doing so.
I note Liverpool were mentioned - Perhaps it explains why no loanees were forthcoming from them, last season ?[/QUOTE]

The article says that there are 16 PL loanees currently in L1, considering that we have 2 of them, we can't be that unpopular.

 

The article says that there are 16 PL loanees currently in L1, considering that we have 2 of them, we can't be that unpopular.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhhhh, yes ! But the window remains open, and City are still looking at loans. Let's see how many we get now.
(And from who !!)

 

With the amount of money PL clubs receive they should be sending out their best youngsters for next to nothing, look at Pickford if he'd not had loan spells I doubt he would be where he is now, it's far better than the PL2 or whatever it is. If they didn't give youngsters such ridiculous wages to start with this wouldn't be a big problem.

 

Message to Edin:

This is ENGLAND!

We're not in GERMANY!

Please start to understand the English game and leagues.

 

Why should they?

They're sending out their best talent mainly and they don't want them sat on the bench not getting game time.

 

What have you got against considering ideas that work abroad here?.

 

They don’t work?

 

Why should they what?
Have you even read what I put?

 

The Germany clubs are back by their government as well and they're all bloody feeder clubs to Munich.

It doesn't work in Germany.

Apart from 1 club in Germany the rest are poor.

In England all leagues are competitive.

Look, it's simple. If Edin likes the German way so much then sell up and buy a club in Germany.