Like it or not the vast majority recognise what Stuart McCall did during both spells at Valley Parade, both as a player and a human being during those dark days.
And even accepting your arguement that in his two spells as manager he didn't get us promoted, Edin and Stefan can only dream of being held in such high esteem as Stuart McCall, who knows with a bit of help from the owners that second season we may have just seen a promotion under Stuart, but unfortunatly we all know how that turned out.
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Not my words. His words.
As for a ‘Glory Hunting....’. I guess like many on here I have been supporting the club for a very long time.
So no not a glory hunter, but rather a supporter who expects to see a team perform, when it crosses the line wearing a City shirt.
I also expect the coaching staff and manager to select a team capable of performing to a reasonable standard.
Trying to belittle someone’s arguement by labelling them as ‘Glory Hunting’ adds nothing to your point and illustrates that you have no reasonable counter!
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bloody hell.
Stuart left in January. JANUARY.
his entire squad nearly has now left.
he's still a club legend, and always will be. when will people stop bad mouthing him? give it a rest.
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Didn't we have a £200,000 release clause within Phil Parkinson contract, and another £100,000 in Steve Parkin's contract, why didn't the new owners tell Bolton yes you meet the get out clause and you can speak to them.
Mason was restricted in his day to day job, quite recently having all social media passwords and the like blocked by the club, you say "Mason simply decided that he had taken the role as far as he could" I'd suggest you could be correct certainly working under the present co-chairman, but it wasn't because he thought he had taken the job as far as he could, in many cases Edin would not listen, once again my way or the highway.
With regards our new coaches etc even though you keep telling us we don't know I find it rather simplistic to believe we interviewed several applicants none of them came up to our required level (because Edin says we never offered a contract to any of the applicants) yet Collins and Drury didn't come into the frame until the weekend Edin made the announcement,
Greg openly states in this video https://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/2018/june/greg-abbott-coaching-team/ that Edin had spoken through the summer and asked would he be able to help, advise and work on the grass if the appointment needed that, are you seriously suggesting the new head coach who came in would have allowed interference from Greg, he might have asked for Greg's opinion on players etc but I would have thought the new man would bring his own backroom staff in, or as you seem to be well versed about what's going on at the club will the likes of Chris Short, Steve Banks, Sam Collins, and Dayle Avison all be offered new contracts.
Your spin on so called Edin haters couldn't be further from the truth, many don't like the way the club has been handled since the New Year but we all want success for our club, why would we want failure we've seen enough of that over the years.
You quote "It is all about Edin and everything is down to him" of course it all down to him, ask the personnel who work for him at the club, or maybe have a word with some of our club sponsors who he has pissed off, you go on to say "Which is why I can't really take any of you seriously" yet you expect posters on here to take yourself seriously, your loyalty to Edin not the club is as tiresome as you say equally our questioning of Edin is.
Finally "You can either bleat and whine all day or you can lift up your eyes and look at this positively and move on" we can only make judgements on what we see and hear happening at the club, some are very much behind Edin and his vision, but others need to see his vision produce a bit of positivity both on and off the pitch, as last season was the first backward step as a club in the last 6/7 season and unfortunately it was under Edin's watch.broadsword, vladimir, Offside and 4 others like this. -
To me that suggests a ‘none attached’ feeder club, with little ambition as you always sell your most valuable assets. The shareholders can do very well, but the paying consumers (the fans) always see the best players being ‘sold on’.
To be frank I do not get the Exeter or Crewe models. City is currently and potentially a far larger club than either of those. Even Brentford, despite their success, have low home crowds, and I anticipate that their attendance figures are bolstered by visiting supporters.
I do not want to dismiss the ‘Development model’ out of hand, however a tandem (or indeed one that has more options) which looks to atract players who are not in the early stages of their career, for me is a model which is likely to see us incrementally progressing.
I always struggle with extremism and feel that consensus is perhaps a more constructive way forward.
There is an old saying about ‘putting all your eggs in one basket’ and questioning the wisdom of such a move.
So no I do not blindly support the ‘Development model’ as being the way forward. It has an important part to play but should not from a ‘mono’ and exclusive recruitment plan. I think that an approach which is in essence is eclectic and seeks the (affordable) best of what is out there, is most likely to succeed in the longer term.River_City_Bantam, Bantam Boy, Briggus and 4 others like this. -
Edin is still not liked by many at the club and those that have recently left. I know this to be fact and have heard it from key figures. I’m not prepared to say exactly what, but I’ve read text messages that clearly state that ie “I can’t stay around and see the club being run the way it is”
So for me it’s a huge well done in the transfer market, a huge well done for staying out of the limelight during all this activity, but My challenge to Edin is that he now brings the people at this club together and works on being more open minded and easier to work for moving forward
If( and it’s a big if ) he gets that right then who knows what we can achieve this seasonpunk bantam, broadsword, CT Bantam and 4 others like this. -
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I love Stuart, but I suspect that he's never properly grown up, mainly due to the group of players he was with at Rangers and the company he keeps now (McCoist etc) and will never come across as "a proper football manager" like Parky does.
His perfect role in football is the number two, the link between players and manager and I'm absolutely convinced he would be superb in that role, like Brian Kidd, Ray Wilkins, Steve Parkin etc. Some people aren't ever cut out to be the number one.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Bantam75, Bantam Boy, Mason Handshake and 4 others like this. -
I understand why the few haters...hate. We have been so successful in the past that they simply can't understand why anyone wants to change the way we run the club, the way we are organised in our team management, the type of players we recruit, what we do about the pitch.... Why, Why, WHY aren't we doing it the way we have always done it?
Hey guy.....major update. We haven't been successful in the past! The club is a Division 4 club in a Division 4 city....a few years in the past 25 out of those lower divisions doesn't change that.
What the new board are trying to do is change that, put a base in place that can build to longer lasting success not some flash in the pan, throw some money at a few players, get promotion and then....bang.... 2 years later be back here. That would please a large number of supporters....well the first bit would but when relegation came (and it would) there would be rioting on the terraces.
And if they personally make money on the way then good on them. They didn't put there money into the club to lose it. They invested for two reasons. They want to own a football club because they like football and they believe they can grow a club like Bradford and they think it could be a good investment long term....they will make money.
I hate to do this ....bring this up again but if they hadn't fired McCall we would not be having these conversations. Some will never get over the fact that they fired a Bradford Legend.
Get over it guys. Any other club of our stature would be happy to be where we are right now.
And thats not a lack of ambition it's realistic view of who and where we are.
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Can you not see that Collins only got the job because nobody else wanted it, i repeat nobody, he probably only took the job because he was bullied into it. the club is poisoned, Rahic has poisoned it with his attitude towards the staff, players, and what is now becoming a large section of the supporters.vladimir, Offside, River_City_Bantam and 3 others like this. -
2 years in the Premiership,
6 years in the Championship,
10 years in League 1
7 years in League 2 (division 4 for those who cannot remember before 1991).
In total 18 out of the last 25 have seen the club in a higher tier than you state.
So by my reckoning you are factually wrong in your flawed assertion.HUDDERSSBANTAM, broadsword, Fordy117 and 3 others like this. -
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Just as it is boring reading daily negative posts with no balance, reading your constant ‘blowing of smoke’ up Edin’s orifice because he sacked McCall, is just as galling....!Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Goose, broadsword, WilsdenBantam and 3 others like this. -
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Again trying to belittle someone to add kudos to his post.
Frankly if that is the tactic that they are going to try and use, then they only show themselves up as someone who is devoid of the ability of being able to respond, using cogent and coherent points of view.AJP, Bronco, JonButterfield and 3 others like this. -
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My hope for the season is the team play with the same conviction and energy as the numerous posters on this and other confrontation threads, albeit they would be working to a single goal
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"Why is he STILL sitting at home," the Summer break hasn't even finished, and you're asking that!
Phil Parkinson was out for seven months before he joined us, sacked by Charlton and with fans saying his style of football no longer works and he had his time with Colchester, it was a one off, blahdy-blahdy-blah, do you think there was this one weird Charlton fan sitting behind his screen saying "hehehe, still no job" three months after his sacking!?punk bantam, bantam2708, Mason Handshake and 3 others like this. -
Looks like you just can't resist your personal comments, I think your next ban may be just around the corner until you reilise its a football message board and fans will have a different opinion to yourself, you really do have to respect that point without going down the road of your above comment, I dont feel silly/stupid, I hope our results continue but it was the first game of a new season, we got the rub of the green yesterday there will be games when we don't.RonnieBrown, bantamdave41, CT Bantam and 3 others like this. -
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