Edin In

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Yes I know our two new owners threw £300,000 away and lost the best manager weve had in a long time because Julian had made a promise to Phil Parkinson.
I wonder if they took £300,000 off the price of the club before Edin & Stefan bought it.
so funny

 

Look if this Norman Corner and indeed Sergio Pinto are the former members of the City Gent forum - they have like us the club at heart and are entitled to their positive spin - but they were as part of the CG forum including others champions at winding up - especially when carrying out humorous “invashuns” on other clubs linked site - so bear this in mind.

 

I may be wrong but the CG Norman had a much different humorous style than the current Norman so I doubt they are the same persona.

 

I would agree...he was a humorous character but stopped posting on Claret and Banter a long time ago. The name only appeared again over the recent months so it could be another fan.

 

The thing is though, they were clearly on a wind up mission a long time ago. Anybody half educated can spot a shit wind up. It’s kind of sad really.

 

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Getting on the high horse are we? Let’s here it then for your formal education?

 

If it wasn't for their self financing ways of the last few years, both these clubs would be where Halifax Town are

You still have no grasp of the maths, never mind the economics. The days of a someone having the finance to support a football club are fading fast.

There isn't a single successful example of a club of our size and recent lower league history, that has followed the plan you believe in

There are plenty who've followed the investment in younger players, who have been successful

Successful - Is achieving more than the clubs with greater fiance around you. It isn't spending wildly beyond your means, so that you could go bankrupt at any time, which is the only way we could compete with the say Sunderland and even Barnsley

Finally, if investment in young players is so bad, why are the likes of Derby and QPR going down this route? If your plan is so great, how come Villa are now the latest unstable big club?

 

Fantastic post. Far too grounded and realistic for lots on this forum, who apparently think believing in the club's vision means you're on a wind-up

I wouldn't care, but we've hardly been a roaring success with the old method for the last 30 years - you'd think that fans would be grounded enough to give this plan at least 30 months

 

A club of our size, so basically a club who generate a lower midtable income, who have achieved success for a sustained period of time through selling young players. Fire away and name them, who are these clubs? I'm sure you'll have plenty of examples to give.

 

You understood the point he was making - you've simply decided to take his summation literal

If you don't get that it's a fact that this club has largely spent most of the last 25 years in the lower divisions and so it's bonkers to think that we are suddenly going to be spend spend spend then so be it

If you do get it. Then you have to support the clubs philosophy and applaud them for at least trying something new

Problem is what most hate is Edin. And don't even have the guts to admit it - they simply carp about him daring to want to play good footie with some youngsters as if it's always failed with other clubs

If they'd spent 20m on players - they'd be moaning about him risking the financial stability of the club

It's hilarious. The funniest thing about the last few months is how the fans find something new every other week to feed their Edin hatred

I'm honestly come on these boards to see what the latest barmy thing that the board are now supposed to have done

 

Are we selling young players? I thought we were buying them and then selling them pre-peak

Huddersfield, who started their policy around 2004, i.e. pre-Hoyle take over. Crewe who amazingly managed to exist in The Championship (L1 as it was then) and were an established team at this level for a quite a few years. Exeter. Brentford - who again started their policy in their L2 days, when they got relegated (I think when they were with us). Greg Dyke refused to spend big, stating that they needed to self finance. Burnley, who took seasons been patient and started in the lower reaches of L1 back in the early 90's and just steadily improved without ever flashing the cash. Even now, they are still a selling club - i.e. Gray to Watford

Remember, I'm talking about how these clubs began their journey

On the other hand, I'm struggling to think of any clubs that really stuck at it, who failed - but please help me there. I'll give your Rotherham - a club who's owner did stick their neck out, but it's hardly resulted in sustained growth has it?

 

The only time we've been very successful? When we spent money we ultimately didn't have. You eventually find your level based on your finances. We are what we are, a mid table league 1 side. Only money will change that. I'm not a fan of it but thats what football is these days.

 

Huddersfield, Brentford and Burnley are not clubs on our level. Their respective owners have put in millions and millions of their own money to deliver them success. Crewe and Exeter are mediocre clubs who are now back to their natural level. This isn't what we are aspiring to. You got anymore examples?

Also, what is it you're asking in your last paragraph? Teams who achieved success through spending money? I'm spoilt for choice, I'll give you my top 100 tomorrow morning.

 

Its like groundhog day again, we've discussed this to death. Without money in modern day sport you are going nowhere. Certain clubs like Yeovil hit a rich vein of form but end up where they really belong without the investment to sustain a championship side. Look at Barnsley. Got back into the championship with a talented squad of players but couldn't keep hold of those players because they can't compete with the bigger championship and premiership clubs. Look at the players they let go, Stones, Mawson, Holgate, Winnall, etc. Now back in league 1.