Does Valley Parade's Smoking Area(s) Comply With EFL Regs?

OK then, apply the logic to Leeds and Mansfield. As posted.

 

The smoking area outside the concourse in the lower Kop has been there years, I’m genuinely surprised there are people who didn’t know about it.

And even those that don’t sit in the Kop, have surely seen the smoking areas outside the concourse at away grounds? I don’t go to that many away games these days but in the past 3 seasons we’ve had smoking areas at Millwall, Blackburn, Southend and Charlton Away ends.

 

I'm not understanding of the legislation in its entirety as I stated to @Storck. That said, I am absolutely certain I read/heard in a stadia discussion around the subject, that smoking is allowed in a designated areas within the perimeter of the ground but not in covered/roofed areas.

Truthfully, I can only go by the fact that (amongst others including Millwall and Charlton, whom I observed for myself despite that I do not smoke) as referenced above that Leeds and Mansfield have designated smoking areas.

I cannot see Millwall, Bradford, Charlton , Leeds and Mansfield allowing smoking unless permitted.

https://www.mansfieldtown.net/club/safety/

https://www.leedsunited.com/club/Matchday-guide

 

Gillingham’s away end is ‘out doors’ but you still wouldn’t be allowed to light up...!

 

I do find it bizarre that @wetherbywhaler has been online tonight and answered the issues regarding any McBurnie sell-on, but ignored this thread and the tagging that Storck provided.

Roger, can you not set the record straight on this?

 

Plenty of grounds have them now and as long as they are classed as outdoors i.e. don't have 4 walls and a roof without any gaps. Some grounds don't have the appropriate area within the perimeter of the stadium like we do so they open some exit gates and put temporary barriers up for a designated smoking area.
It's the same as a lot of nightclub now that their smoking areas are within the nightclub but classed as outside so ok.

 

https://www.redimps.co.uk/news/2018/august/180810-smoking-policy/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/essexfa/files/facilities/smoking-ban-guidance.ashx&ved=2ahUKEwi2zfLnjojiAhW3URUIHcPPBsAQFjACegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw2YPVJFe8bIUVG45ampHYS9

The FA directive.

Smoking areas

There is no obligation to provide smoking areas. If a venue provides smoking shelters it will need to ensure the shelters comply with the regulations and, of course, consider other safety issues, such as blocking fire exits.

Smoking outside

The law does not prevent people from smoking in the open air; it will be a matter for management if a venue wishes to declare its entire grounds smoke free.

 

I have picked this up at 7.45 am Tuesday, I don't spend my life on this site. If you want the absolute definitive explanation I suggest you contact Paula Watson who is the Club's Operations Manager and ask her. As far as I'm aware there is no smoking within the curtail age of the building itself but Paula will be only too pleased to confirm, I'm sure.

 

There is a difference between an outdoor away end and a designated smoking area outside of the stand.

 

I'm pretty sure Roger doesn't have an obligation to respond/answer everything that he is tagged in.

 

Of course they don't comply with the regs. Whether there's anyone prepared to do anything about it is completely different.

 

Have I missed something here? They are smoking outside of the stadium in open air regardless of if they come into the stadium and then go back out, what's the problem?

 

But surely if they're exiting the concourse, they are outside the stadium?

 

It's within the turnstiles. Between the concourse and turnstiles.

 

Correct, however @Storck is questioning whether this area between entering the turnstiles and the entrance to the lower Kop concourse is classified as 'within the stadium' and therefore against ground regulations and the health and safety certificate.

I don't think there is a question of whether it is outdoors or not.

 

Why do people seem to have a problem with there being a safe smoking area. I don't smoke myself but I totally respect people's right to have a fag if it is in a safe space away from others.

The world seems to be full of 'anti' everything's these days. Whatever happened to live and let live?