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  1. Hoochy-Min

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    I think this is a false rumour.

    Can you defend the driving to Barnard Castle to test his eyes Offy?
     
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  2. Offside

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    Not a false rumour , no i cant defend the Castle visit , but the fact that some random visitor saw which is uncollaberated with no evidence , the fact he managed to spot his Car reg plate , found the reg on the DVLA site which is impossible . Would love to know the political leanings of this shocked " eye witness ".
     
  3. Offcomedun

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    As opposed to your rose tinted right wing views, which allow you to excuse any amount of bungling, inaction or bad decision-making by this government, no matter how many unnecessary deaths they cause?

    If Ali or Kinnock had been in government they'd have resigned or been sacked if they didn't. And, yes, I'd have expected the media to behave exactly as they have to Cummings.

    The key element is in government here. That is why the media are focused so much more on Cummings than on Kinnock or Ali. If you are the authority telling people to stay at home if they have symptoms and you flout that yourself then the implications are much greater, because the elements of hypocrisy and setting the wrong example come into it. The Daily Mail's "What Planet Are They On?" headline expicitely recognised this point. I simply don't understand how anyone can defend this.

    Johnson's credibility to get anyone to do as they are asked is now in the toilet because of his support for Cummings actions. That's obvious to anyone out and about in the last few days. The numbers of people blatantly flouting the social distancing and gatherings rules has gone through the roof since the weekend. People have clearly decided, 'sod 'em, I'll do what I want now 'cos the rules no longer mean anything'

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/your-dominic-cummings-do-whatever-22091761
     
  4. Offcomedun

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    People in government have always been held to higher account. If you make the rules you have to stick to them yourself.
    Did any of the other rule flouters that have been mentioned travel long distances knowing that they and their partner were actively infectious? No. Big difference.
    You are right though. If he'd issued an abject apology early this might have gone away by now. But his arrogant refusal, and Johnson's pathetic refusal to sack him, has multiplied the outrage many times. A majority of Tory voters now believe he should go.
     
  5. Offcomedun

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    I'd be perfectly happy for them to resign or be sacked.
    But they didn't make the rules that they broke, unlike Cummings.
    Cummings clearly is 'in government'. He's central to the whole operation which is why Johnson is clinging onto him like a scared child.
    The fact that he is an unelected advisor makes it even worse. If Kinnock or Ali's constituents think they've done wrong they can petition for a by-election or vote them out at the next GE. Cummings, by contrast, is unaccountable. Which is why Johnson should have the balls to sack him, but he won't. Johnson has irreparably damaged his credibility over this. He can say it's time to move on as much as he likes but the bad smell will linger on.
     
  6. trevor

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    Cummins did not make the rules, The government set the rules after taking advice from the medical experts, Cummins role was to advise the government how best to get the rules out to the public. He did not break his own rules despite what those that sense and enjoy a sacking think
     
  7. The Original EB

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    In Mary Wakefield's account of their Coronavirus lockdown there was a couple of mentions of their 4 year old son. After she'd thrown up in the bathroom according to her he said " that's disgusting Mum" and when his Dad was ill she reveals" my son in his doctor's uniform administered Ribena"
    Now we know where Cummings got his medical advice on the best way to test his eyesight.
     
  8. Offcomedun

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    I haven't seen the reports of what they did but if they deliberately broke the rules then they certainly shouldn't have done it and I have no problem with the press pursuing them about it.
    No one is doubting that Cummings is a very clever operator, which is why Johnson is so desperate to hold onto him.
    40 Tory MPs now calling for him to go. Johnson is lucky that there's no PMQs this week, but I think he's kidding himself if he thinks this is going quietly away. I'm sure Starmer won't let it drop next Wednesday.
     
  9. Storck

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    If he had moved his nieces down to London they would have had to move into his home. As it was they were just on stand by so as they were not needed they never mixed households
     
  10. Rogered Tart

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    To be fair mate I'm not sure Cummings has used that in his defense but plenty have. Pretty poor to use Autism as an excuse from his supporters and I don't like the weasel.
     
  11. Bigrod

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    Actually it is not an illness at all, it cannot be ‘cured’ with the use of medication or surgical intervention. To label it as such is totally wrong.
    Here is a more detailed explanation, “Autism is a complex, lifelong developmental disability that typically appears during early childhood and can impact a person’s social skills, communication, relationships, and self-regulation. Autism is defined by a certain set of behaviors and is a “spectrum condition” that affects people differently and to varying degrees”.
    I have had experience of individuals with differing levels of autism, it can be a disabling condition for some, it depends on the degree. Also parents who are more able to help their child, usually through a level of real understanding, can help their child to develop strategies to ameliorate the condition to some degree.
     
  12. Keefly Bantam

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    I am sure Cummings could easily have found somewhere suitable nearby for her to stay.
     
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  13. Keefly Bantam

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    Not at all. Would have been an essential journey.
    Thanks to the press for outing this selfish man and all the others in positions of power or influence who have stuck 2 fingers up to the British public.
     
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  14. trevor

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    That must be the same essential journey he took on that basis, And where would they find somewhere stay locally that quickly, Took my friend 4 weeks to find somewhere for her new job and ended up over the river sharing with 2 others at £3k a month, Totally unrealistic for them to come to London in that timescale
     
  15. Bigrod

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    Cummings would have many contacts to assist if required.
     
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  17. Offside

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    Thanks for the Education , having a grandchild who suffers i am well aware of the condition .
     
  18. Offside

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    So i'm right wing because i voted Conservative and for Brexit , rather sweeping statement even for you . I suppose with you being a Labour supporter that makes you Anti - semetic anti jewish , that you think Naz Shah was correct with her dirty disgusting racist tweets ?
    Apologies if i've got that wrong , but the evidence of your posts suggest otherwise.
     
  19. How

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    Wouldn't have thought it would be in public interest to pursue
     
  20. Keefly Bantam

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    I bet that has pleased those that have been fined in similar circumstances.
     
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