COVID-19

Apparently any test that you pay for can not be registered on the nhs site which means even if you test positive it will not show on your medical records unless you end up in hospital

 

How come? Surely all the purchased lateral flow tests have bar codes and serial numbers that can be registered.
We bought some Flowflex LFTs a while back and they were identical to the ones that we'd previously got for free from the chemist.

 

Don’t know why. Maybe the codes have not been input into their system

 

It's just a cold:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/06/nhs-enormous-strain-england-trusts-declare-critical-incidents?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

I sense you're being sarcastic but isn't that almost exactly what that article says?

Stop treating Covid like a special case and treat it like other infectious disease to stop the disruption?

 

Most of the symptoms and "long" symptoms are pretty much the same as proper flu surely

 

I don't ever recall hospitals calling critical incidents for colds.

 

They don't. But if you made people stay in hospital while they had one while simultaneously making all the staff who had one stay off work then I'm sure they probably would.

As the article says that it's the disruption caused by the relatively needless stipulations that are causing the incidents, not the severity of the disease. The professionals are calling for it to be dealt with less dramatically ( like flu) rather than more severely to solve the incidents.

 

Lucky you. Not everyone has the same experience.

 

Are you suggesting that anyone with Covid should just carry on as normal unless they feel debilitatingly sick? Go into work, school , pubs, restaurants, shops, visit family and friends etc knowing that they have the illness - or in many cases not knowing, since they won't bother testing any more. Ie - knowingly spreading the disease to others, some of whom will be immunosuppressed or just vulnerable due to age or other infirmities? A free for all?

 

I'm not suggesting anything at all.

You posted the article! That's what it says in terms of patients who are in hospital but don't need to be as a solution to their problems.

I made no further comment. Although in reality whether one should really be doing all the things you suggest if you have the flu is probably debatable too. You probably shouldn't knowingly spread any infectious disease IMO.

 

Apologies. I thought you were implying that hospital staff who have Covid should go into work and that your comment about 'relatively needless stipulations' referred to staff being required to stay off work, thereby causing the current hospital crisis.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-61137649

I seem to remember the Eastern countries response getting quite a lot of praise previously.

Authorities in Shanghai have said they will tighten the enforcement of lockdown measures, as a Covid surge continues in China's financial capital. New measures include placing electronic door alarms to prevent those infected from leaving, as well as evacuating people to disinfect their homes. Earlier this week, hundreds were forcibly evacuated from their homes to allow for buildings to be disinfected. The restrictions will take Shanghai's lockdown into its fifth week. Shanghai city officials said all infected patients and close contacts will be transferred to government-run centralised quarantine.

I really wish we were doing things the Chinese way. Look at how "well" they've dealt with it.

 

They reckon they have only had a handful of deaths too.

Have they vaccinated people?

 

I'm gonna make an idiot of myself by not rembering this the correct way around but its either 60% vaccinated or 60% unvaccinated.

They've been messing with the figures from the start. They don't count a positive test as a "case" unless there is also symptoms which is clearly subjective. That seems to be flowing through into the deaths now too.

 

I don't remember China getting particularly praised for its response in the early days of the pandemic. It was other Eastern countries like Vietnam and Cambodia, I believe, who managed the pre-vaccine situation pretty well and avoided the sort of death rates that many western countries experienced.

What you've quoted above sounds horrific, but not particularly surprising from the increasingly hardline authoritarian regime running China at present.

 

All of the Eastern countries were praised! All of which are relatively authoritarian by Western standards and arguably less concerned with the accuracy of the data.

The point that having an authoritarian regime makes virus control was made numerous times. But zero covid without strict authority was never going to be a logical end point. Given where they are I'm pretty happy with the side of the fence I picked.

 

Things were different initially. There were no vaccines and the death rates were horrendous. Being very restrictive to limit the spread made sense then. Now, not so much.

 

And I agree that things have changed but even after the vaccines people were calling for us to continue to chase the zero covid mindset. This was the very clear end point of such a strategy.