COVID-19

If it's peaceful and there's enough of them, yes.

And yes it's peaceful to argue with people of a different opinion. Use of threats is not acceptable though and should result in arrest. Not a frozen bank account or the army being used.

Sorry, I missed your answers to my questions. Have you actually got a view on the rights/wrongs on what's happening or just being contrary?

 

I am saying if all other avenues have been tried then the government can not just give in to the those holding their city to ransom. So yes cancel their insurance for taking part in illegal activity and freeze their bank accounts which is already done to those partaking in criminal activities which their 'peaceful protest' is

 

Wow. Slippery slope wouldn't you say? taking part in a protest is not an illegal activity but fair enough.

Fair enough. I never considered I would hear this in A western democracy but it probably shows what the last two years have done

 

Taking part in a protest isn't necessarily an illegal activity but it depends on how the protest is done. If they breaks laws then it is illegal, which they have by blocking the roads and infrastructure in the way they have.

As for the last two years, not sure why that matters. They are not using any new powers that have been brought in specially for this, they are using powers that they have had for over 20 years rather than new Covid specific laws

 

How do you protest without inconveniencing people? Even if they have the recourse should be the usual one - a fine - rather than tanks rolling in and assets frozen surely. The rule of law works both ways.

I meant in terms of attitude. Three years ago people would have been in complete agreement that you have the right to decide your own medical treatments. Now you can have the army set on you for doing so and people actually agree with this.

 

So if you are against using the army and against the financial penalties are you suggesting they are just left there indefinitely, as they outnumber the police so the police can not remove them

 

Yes. That is literally the right to protest.

 

Even if they are breaking the law?

 

If they are breaking the law then give them the appropriate legal sanction. Don't just make them up.

What law breaking results in having your bank account frozen and having the army march on you?

 

They aren't making them up. They are using laws on their books available to the government to use in certain situations, this being one of them. So they have broken the law and are having their accounts frozen under laws that predate the current situation.

What exactly is being made up?

 

Enacting emergency laws which are made for wartime and give the government carte blanch is not what I'm talking about.

I'm saying that if the penalty for blocking a road way is a fine....then give them a fine.

Having a government that can do anything they wish on a whim is bad. Very bad.

 

Seems England the Outlier is now England the trend setter.

Within the UK, England and Northern Ireland currently only have self isolation as the only restriction in place.

In Wales Covid Passes expire on Friday, and Masks are no longer required on the 28th Feb. Self isolation is still required.

However in Scotland, the Covid powers are being extended for six months until the 24th September.
Mask are required in school until the end of the month, they will then be removed from the classroom but still be required in communal areas.
Masks remain mandatory for indoor public areas, shops and public transport with no end date set.
Covid Passes are still in use and there is no end date set to their expiry.
In Scotland they still ask you for your details for track and trace when using a restaurant or bar and there is no end date set.
As all the above is still in effect, self isolation is still in place.

Cases don't really matter anymore but out of the above nations with the above currently in place, Scotland has the second highest rate of the four, and the daft thing is that if anyone listens to Wee Krankie she keeps boasting about Scotland being the most vaccinated place in the UK but still wants to micro manage peoples lives with continuing restrictions.



I have no interest in going to Scotland whilst this is going on. I think the most sensible solution for all is to welcome those from Scotland who have had enough of this rubbish, then send those from England to Scotland who hand on Indy Sages every word.

It will be interesting to see how Queen Nicola tries to work her way out of this without losing face.

 

So insulate britain were completely fine to do what they were doing in your opinion then?

 

Yes. And the guys who protested at the Batley school. In fact if you look on the thread about the school I believe I said the same thing.

https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/rule-of-the-mob-batley-school.4868/page-4#post-481224

The secret to believing in free speech and freedom to protest is not just doing it when you agree with the people - that's easy - you have to believe with it in the whole. I don't agree with what the Insulate Britain protestors aims were but that's a different matter.

The police were also correct to use their powers to arrest people who crossed the line and broke the law.

 

The vaccine mandates going well in the rest of the world as well.

Italy have effectively made it impossible for over 50s who aren't vaccinated to work and socialise from this week.

Everybody has taken it well.

 

dont patronise me dude I understand free speech and the freedom to protest perfectly well.

 

Not patronising you. In fact nothing in my post was aimed at you at all.

I was outlining my thoughts on it the situation and showing I was consistent whether I agreed or not,

 

It came across as incredibly patronising if I'm honest

 

I can't help how you took it mate.

You asked me a question and I responded, adding an example and further context. As I said, nothing was directed at you.

 

I don't agree but fair dinkum