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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Edin Nowhere

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    All those who nearly allowed this to happen should not just be forgotten. The MPs who voted for it, those who said they would not want to be treated by the unvaxxed and those who pushed for such a daft idea in the first place.
     
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  2. Edin Nowhere

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    The fact this was voted into law just shows how little scrutiny and how few people actually asked for evidence these things would make a difference.

    A few people have asked questions throughout to ensure what was going to be put into law actually had scientific and fact based evidence in place to suggest it was required, unfortunately many have been led by those who shout loudest and claim anyone who thinks otherwise is an anti vaxxer, etc. I've had people call me, someone who has had three jabs an anti vaxxer because I questioned this policy and pointed to hundreds of thousands of fully jabbed people catching covid as a basis for how pointless this policy was.

    Hospitalisations from Omicron are dropping like a stone and back when it was Delta, the spilt of because of covid and with was 80% / 20%, now for the first time with is over 50% meaning more than half of those quoted as being in hospital with covid are now there for other reasons.

    I suppose the best thing is that they haven't plodded on regardless, it says something when Drakeford super caution man who taped up the non food section and cancelled park run thought this was a step too far.
     
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  3. Aaron Baker

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    It shows how giddy they got with their new powers that they could wield "for the greater good" and made even worse by opposition parties egging them of to do more and a large section of the population falling into a mindset where they wanted everyone controlled.
     
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  4. Aaron Baker

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    At first glance it looks like the reinfections are adding about 10% onto the daily totals.
     
  5. Edin Nowhere

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    It will give the lockdown and mask warriors all the ammo they need to try infringe our freedoms.

    I still can't believe we are at the stage where 8.5m people got tested in the last week for diet Covid.
     
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  7. Aaron Baker

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    For all the mistakes made over here I'm so glad we never ended up going down the route Canada is facing now.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60383385

    Freezing personal bank accounts of protesters against forced vaccination. Once again a perfect example of the overreaching power grabs that have resulted from this crisis.
     
  8. Edin Nowhere

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    Northern Ireland is removing all restrictions next Tuesday. This leaves Scotland out on their own now with the covid pass, masks, etc.

    Scotland the Brave indeed.
     
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    LOL
     
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  10. Storck

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    Isn't it more because they are causing chaos in certain areas blocking major routes etc rather than what they are protesting about. They could be protesting about the climate or arms race or anything but it is the disruption they are causing that is the issue
     
  11. Aaron Baker

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    Protestors causing issues? No way!!

    It isn't just anything though. It's this particular issue.
     
  12. Storck

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    Maybe because no one else has caused such issues?
     
  13. Aaron Baker

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    All protestors cause issues. BLM as a relatively recent example.

    Peaceful protest is - or should be - a right.

    Freezing bank accounts, taking money from GoFundMe, treats of imprisonment etc, etc, all because some people want the freedom to decide whether they have a medical procedure all not is surely wrong. No?
     
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  14. Storck

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    And what about the people want their freedom to move around their own city? Should the government just stand aside and let a small number of people gridlock their city?

    There was outrage in this country when a few environmental protestors tried blocking main roads in London and motorway slip roads etc.
     
  15. Aaron Baker

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    I understand the outrage but that's what protests do.

    Did the environmental protestors have their bank accounts stopped by the government? Even considering that the Canadians are fighting for the rights of everyone and the London protestors wanted the government to pay for something.
     
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    No they didn't as the police managed to clear them due to the small numbers. If there had been massive numbers using trucks etc then maybe they would have had to do more than just arrest a few.
     
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    So we agree it's different then?

    No real issue with anybody being arrested if they break the law obviously but this is completely different territory and wrong. It's a sign of the authoritarian regime that people feared.
     
  18. Storck

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    We do agree it is different but they tried going in and arresting people and were outnumbered. Suppose they are trying to avoid using the army to clear the streets so are going for financial ways first rather than putting the army on the streets to clear them
     
  19. Aaron Baker

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    To me peaceful protest is a right above all others, whether I agree with them or not.

    Are you happy for people's bank accounts to be frozen for attending a protest or the army used on citizens who want others to have the right to decide which medicines they take?
     
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    Are you happy for a small minority to gridlock whole communities?

    Is it peaceful if you are refusing to allow other people to use the roads with threats of violence if anyone try's to use the roads that you are protesting on? Is it peaceful to throw abuse at people who are just wanting to go about their normal day to day activities
     

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