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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Stafford Bantam

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    This is one of the slides presented at yesterday's briefing:
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  2. Storck

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    would be interesting to see that breakdown for people who have been admitted for Covid
     
  3. Edin Nowhere

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    I see sage are talking of 7000 hospital admissions per day during October.

    Has it ever been 7000 per day at any stage?
     
  4. Storck

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    didn’t they say 150k cases per day by now?

    Part of their job is to give worse case scenario so presume this is the same
     
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  5. Storck

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    worst it has been is 4583 in January
     
  6. Aaron Baker

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    The thing is SAGE said between 2,000 and 7,000 which is an enormous margin of error and fair enough.

    The media say 7,000.

    Why do they not want to actually want to inform?
     
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    2,000 is less alarming.
     
  8. Stafford Bantam

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    SAGE's primary role is to advise the government.

    The media's self-defined role seems to be to pick the most headline grabbing bits which unfortunately are, more often than not, the worst case scenarios.
     
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    Because its better to scare people.

    Did you notice how Robert Peston was asking for bringing in masks for large indoor gatherings of people, whilst in a large indoor gathering of people whilst not wearing a mask?

    2000 to 7000. What kind of margin of error is that.

    Stopped by police, do you know how fast you were going? Between 20 and 70mph.
     
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    2000 also won't be the true figure, as the new data released showed that over half the people admitted to hospital on the 1st September as a random day was for something other than covid, but they happened to test positive for covid whilst going in for another procedure.
     
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  11. Storck

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    It is better for clicks and that is how advertising is worked out.

    As for the range their job is to look at different possible outcomes depending on different variables so their outcomes will always be wide ranging
     
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    I think the prediction of 100k cases per day which they used to try stop the last removal of restrictions was the straw that broke the camels back. Their figures are pretty much ridiculed now because of it.
     
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    Massive margin of error but it's a future projection with 5 different variable accounted within it. it's the difference between best, worst and likely scenario with margins of error built in so it will be a huge spread.

    I watched the whole thing yesterday and all they wanted to talk about after was the 'Plan B' which is clearly the worst case scenario. it's so predictable!
     
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    200,000 cases per day if you really want to put the frighteners on people!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/18/uk-covid-cases-could-hit-200000-a-day-says-neil-ferguson-scientist-behind-lockdown-strategy-england

    Of course some people just eat it up so it works like a dream. Between Neil Ferguson and the media it's like catnip to anybody who is obsessed with the worst case route.
     
  15. Aaron Baker

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    The bigger and better studies they do into Long Covid the fewer and fewer people it finds are actually affected. I'm obvioulsy stunned.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58584558

    it's only about 3% of people who have any symptoms 12 weeks after infection and about 1.5% after 16 weeks. Even in the general population who haven't had Covid at all 0.5% of people show signs of one of the symptoms at any given point.

    To think, at one point we were making decisions based on the impact of things like this.
     
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    When data like this is released the reasons to move back to any restrictions become smaller and smaller.
     
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    The reasons are irrelevant, sadly. The government and media machine will still convince enough people into believing whatever they want them to believe.
     
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    The Welsh pushing ahead with Covid Passports. I doubt it will make any difference to our trip to Newport with their gates being well under 10k. I presume only Swansea and Cardiff would be clobbered but seeing as many English teams go there, I guess there will be a knock on effect.

    Where this leads to, who knows but in Italy they are pushing ahead by making the vaccine passports mandatory for ALL workers. People can't be sacked but they can be suspended without pay and face a fine. This is for both the public and private sector.

    Those conspiracy theorists are not being shown as mental as they were made out to be last year.

    If you can't work you can't feed yourself, so is this starving people into vaccination?
     
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  19. Storck

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    Had my flu shot today and now awaiting my Covid booster
     
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    The Welsh have left the option of negative lateral flow test, so making it pointless due to the ease of faking a negative result
     

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