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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Dennis

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    I suspect he didn't provide the evidence purposefully until after Hancock had appeared at the Select Committees. That's how to maximise the damage he wished to impart on both Hancock and the PM. He knew full well how the Govt would circle the wagons to protect their version of events after Cummings' and Hancock's first visits to the Select Ctte.

    We should all look forward to see how No 10 now responds to this before Cummings presents his next instalment. If it wasn't all so deadly serious, it would make a great comedy show.
     
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    but he hasn’t sent anything to the select committee. If he wants to do it via Twitter do it via Twitter if he wants it official then he should do it that way. His current way makes him look bitter and twisted and as if he is hiding things.

    there was nothing stopping him sending it to the select committee when requested and releasing it simultaneously on Twitter
     
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    If I was No10 I’d just ignore him and just reply to the select committee directly
     
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    There is no evidence on the long term effects of the vaccines because the studies haven't been done due to the fact they were created so quickly and were approved for emergency use. Nobody knows what the long term effects, and the fact that information doesn't exist, doesn't mean they're safe.

    We know already that the AZ vaccine increases the risk of blood clots and the Pfizer vaccine increases the risk of heart inflammation. Nobody can claim the vaccines are safe, no vaccine is safe.

    In my opinion, the mRNA vaccines such as the Pfizer ones, that use the spike protein, are the risky ones given that there are so many unknowns about these types of vaccines.

    It's up to the individual to decide whether or not they believe the risks of taking the vaccine outweigh the risks of getting the virus. I believe anyone over the age of 45 should get the vaccine (as should anyone with health conditions), but anyone under that age should first look into if the vaccine is beneficial to them given the amount of unknowns and potential risks associated with it.
     
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    Matt Hancock is currently stood up in the House of Commons claiming that 3/5 of all people in hospital are people who haven't been offered the jab. When when he went to give an answer he painted it in the way that he said 1/5 of people in hospital had 2 jabs and 1/5 of people had one jab. I don't trust Hancock at all and I think he is massaging the figures as this has shifted from people who choose not to have the vaccine. As people under 30 are now having jabs are we supposed to believe hospitals are filling up with Under 30s?
     
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    That is what they've been saying for several weeks - that the Indian variant is causing many more younger people to be hospitalised than previous strains did.
     
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    Yet he won't release the figures to the MPs asking for them. Strange.
    The death figures in the last 10 weeks are still heavily weighted towards those over 60.
    You'll have to forgive me if I don't take the man who said there was no PPE shortage whilst NHS staff were wearing bin bags as being fully transparent.
     
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    From the data I can find from the NHS website, the age ranges are not as detailed as the deaths which are done in 5 year intervals.

    There is a range of 18 to 54 which probably equates to 30m people in the UK. However the figure in this range are similar to what has been seen for months.

    I'd like to take the health secretary at face value, but this is Matt Hancock we are talking about.
     
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    Not forgetting how track and trace would have us all back to normal within a couple of months and the non shortage of PPE
    If he told me night followed day I would check at midnight
     
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    I didn't say that this is correct. I just said that it's what's been widely reported. I certainly wouldn't trust Hancock as far as I could throw him.
     
  12. bantam65

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    Which face of the town hall clock would you like to take him at?
     
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    Genius. The Simpsons nail it again!

     
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    It’s interesting regarding the BBC reporting daily deaths, I have to admit I look myself everyday. Regardless of your thoughts on Covid it’s not paranoia to think it’s a type of propaganda to keep the fear of Covid there. It way be done for good reasons so people don’t get complacent but it’s reported for the purpose of keeping the public scared of the virus I have no doubts. The BBC should report flu deaths or cancer deaths everyday for a while see public reaction to it, because them figures are far higher than Covid deaths atm.
     
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    I'd be very interested to see stats on 'number of deaths within 28 days of receiving vaccine jab' but that information is nowhere to be had.
     
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    Not scary enough to justify another 4 weeks...
     
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    I've had to have a test today. Snotty nose, headache and struggling to taste anything.
     
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    South Park have done it.

     
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    Find a Mad Hancock press conference to have more comedic value than the Simpsons to be honest
    Must admit government playing a master stroke with allowing "double jabbed" to take holidays abroad
    Families will have their children vaccinated just to go on holiday
    Scandalous
     
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    Good luck
     
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