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Chicksen

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by trevor, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. ahar964

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    I actually think he did exactly the right thing there. We were short on numbers and he didn't dive in but rather held the guy up until we got numbers back. The ball then went pretty much all the way back to the half line by which time we had got numbers back, but we still failed to deal with it. I don't think that goal can be put down to Chicksen. That said I don't know what he was attempting to do when he got sent off. He was unlucky to clumsily catch the guy, but he was never going to have the pace to run round him and get goalside, which is what he appeared to try to do.
     
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  2. ahar964

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    Unfortunately not new, he has been a scapegoat for ages
     
  3. The Granby Mullet

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    Do you think he's good enough Ewan? Yes or no will do.
     
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  4. Tolly856

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    On this whole scapegoat nonsense, I'm just going to leave this here.

    "Some of our fans with their deep-rooted loser mentality seem to believe that to round, en masse, on a shit player is to make him a scapegoat. The inference being that the opprobrium is unfair and unwarranted and that the motivation for the attacks is simply that mean fans have some odd need to single out one player for abuse at all times. That they’re needlessly spiteful. This is another idiotic and limp-wristed attempt to defend shit players. ‘He’s being used as a scapegoat’ can be filed with ‘yeh but he tries hard’, ‘he’s a unit’ and ‘he’s a character in the dressing room’ in the drawer marked ‘Excuses For Losers’.

    If a player is below the standard required then it’s perfectly natural, for the fan who wants his club to push on, to want to look to upgrade on said shitpile. It’s counter-productive to find excuses to defend him. It’s not ‘spiteful’ or ‘disgraceful’ to want said player out of your club and at his more natural level. I’ve said it before but our club isn’t here to give less gifted, substandard players a run out and a wage packet.

    This brings me on to Chicksen. He’s been copping dog’s abuse on Twitter and it’s not because we have a section of fans who need a target to release their bile toward; its because he’s shite. In fact, in a squad with a fair number of substandard players, he’s the second worst after Wright. Since Wright has been found out by HopkinS and isn’t going to play again anytime soon then Chicksen is the worst by default and by some distance.

    If you, as a fan, want to win games and don’t want to watch garbage players leeching cash from your club and damaging any efforts to move upwards then it stands to reason that the best starting point to improve is to replace your worst player. Sometimes a manager has a blind spot and inexplicably continues to select a total shitbag of a player. At this point I don’t give a feck if fans hound him out of the club. I don’t give a feck if he feels bad or leaves the club with bad memories and a bad taste in his mouth as a result. I don’t care if the *@?$ hates us forever, I just want him gone.

    To me none of this seems reactionary, spiteful or disgraceful; it seems like stating the obvious. Shit players create a shit team. I don’t want my team to be a shit team. I don’t want us collecting shit players. I don’t want to waste my time arguing with people who like defending shit players while we stagnate in the lower leagues. I want us to do well.

    In summary, Adam Chicksen, and those like him, aren’t being used by inherently mean spirited fans as ‘scapegoats’, they’re just shit. These turds need flushing and to pretend otherwise is to gomp your way into oblivion"

    spot on too. Our fans love mediocrity. We had it with Breunker and we're having it with Chicksen too.
     
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  5. Bantam@{Lancs}

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    Chicksen is absolute rubbish end of and nowhere near the required standard, this is a football forum where various topics get discussed regarding players and the club, this particular thread is to talk about Chicksen weather it be good points or bad. If people don't like that then I suggest they read something else.
     
  6. ahar964

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    and if at this moment in time we haven't got anyone better to take his place? Is it still fair to abuse him?
     
  7. Tolly856

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    For the most part I don't think it's unreasonable to call a shite player just that.
     
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  8. donhutchinsaffro

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    I think we have been spoilt, Meredith was a great player at this level.
     
  9. Bronco

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    I was just going to ask how many games he'd be out for with it being a straight red, I always thought a straight red was 3 games, two yellows and it was one game.
     
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    It is only 3 games if the straight red is for violent conduct, otherwise it is 1, if it is a professional foul, as in this case. Chicksen gets an extra 1 match as this is his second sending off this season.
     
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    Abuse is just unpleasant. He might not be very good, no doubt Hopkin would replace him if he could. Abusing him won't get a replacement in any quicker. It will just make for an unpleasant atmosphere all round.
     
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    Ah well now we are talking about guts! Once again not something you can teach, you either have it or you don’t. He suffered a bad facial injury, nothing wrong with his tackling before. It has probably at some level had an impact on his ability to tackle players. He appears to be worse this season than when he arrived.
     
  13. bantam2708

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    If he's still suffering from that injury, he needs to hang up his boots until he has had professional counselling to deal with it.
     
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    I don’t like mediocrity! I want us to win every single match. I am not making excuses either, he obviously is not good enough, but do we have to slag him off every single match? It doesn’t sit comfortably with me to constantly berate a player who clearly does not have the skill to perform at the level we want.
     
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  15. Onside

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    He may not know, and it may not be the reason. I am speculating what might be the reason. In any event, you cannot make ppl have guts or bottle you either have it or you don’t.
     
  16. Edinmiarse

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    No need to be vitriolic about it. We have many players who aren't good enough. We've had players who haven't been good enough for decade after decade with some notable exceptions. It's exactly why BCFC have spent almost their entire existence in the 3 rd and 4 th divisions.
     
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    I don’t get to go a lot of the time so it’s unfair for me to judge that,
     
  18. marshy77

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    We have though, that's the annoying thing. Wood was playing well before he came back from injury and hasn't had a look in since.
     
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  19. Farsley XI

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    In the Parkinson era we defended from the front. We had wingers/ midfielders who could track back. Chicksen isn’t the best defender we have had. But, both full backs have more exposure this season, Barnsley exploited the wings very well.

    At times Chicksen had O’Brien or Payne in front of him. They both kept swapping positions and to be fair their play was below standard. Both failed to track back when needed. Or simply did we get outclassed by a better team.
     
  20. ahar964

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    But with respect Marshy that's a bit of a myth. Wood was full of energy and enthusiasm and was ok going forward but his defensive game was as bad if not worse than Chicksen. What I will say however is that he is still young and has the potential to improve
     

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