Charlie

Mark McNulty, Eisa, Doidge...but would depend on the transfer fee. These guys have scored 20+ goals last season. If we get £1m for Wyke and could get 2 of these players for £250k each they do have potential selling on fee's if they continue to score 15+ in league 1. Or go a league lower and buy one of the potentially decent strikers and continue with their development.

That's the model.

 

I answered within the first line of my response, "maybe not, who knows" however, Why do we have to sign someone befitting that criteria. We took advantage of a situation at Carlisle, and kudos to all involved in that however it came about. Whilst i quoted Wyke has been the first virtue of the model to be a success, not all have to have been proven products before signing. Robinson for example cost us nothing, same applies to gibson if and i agree with others on the if part, they are sold down the line for 250k, 500k they are still successes are they not?

Im not saying all is perfect, and its imperative that the money is reinvested for us to push on but it is signs of how the system will pan out and a sign of what they intended is working

 

Eisa and Doidge for £250k each? You're mad. Why are teams going to sell us their 20 goal a season hit men for peanuts? Just to put it into perspective, just 50k below that price got us Shay Mcarten who is less prolific in front of goal than James Hanson.

 

I’d prefer he stayed after signing an extension but that seems unlikely.

Whoever we get in I’d like them to be played in their natural position and not converted to something they’re not used to. With a 2 year contract there isn’t much time to convert a player, get him playing well enough to stand out and then sell him for a profit.

 

Didn't we sign Wyke for £250k?

 

It's simple. You'd asked if Charlie Wyke was evidence that the model was working and I said no because he's an exception to the model and I explained why that's the case using the above criteria. Robinson and Gibson is a slightly different discussion but as you've brought it up, IF they do get sold then I'd say the model is working but they haven't yet, so it's nothing but hope at the moment.

 

Only because of a release clause in his contract. Without that, there is no way Carlisle would have sold him for under £500k say

 

The problem is if £1m is the going rate for Wyke then we are likely to have to spend circa £750k in a replacement. We can’t exoect to sign 3-4 players at £250k and expect to profit on them all. Hence the model hasn’t really worked in this instance. Of all the fees payed out so far only Wyke is sellable asset, if it costs the whole profit to replace him it’s as we were.

 

Very true. Maybe some of these other striker will have similar low release clauses too haha.

 

Make the real money on postage and packing

 

We got lucky with Wyke due to his contract. Could be a long while before we sign a striker as effective for that type of money again.

 

Go back and read the thread. Wyke had a release clause in his contract meaning we paid well below his market value at the time. im asking if there are any other strikers who we could do this with.

Neither Eisa or McNulty have a release clause in their contract, so their respective clubs don't have to get rid of their greatest assets for peanuts.

 

How does this 'release clause' business actually work? Does it mean once a team offers the release sum then they can't accept a higher bid?

 

And this is known because? Have you thought that wyke may have had such a low release clause because thats the only way carlisle may have got him to sign a new contract with them. Whats to say that either cheltenham, coventry, forest green or any other team who may have decent player on their books may have or will have to do the same

 

Dont suppose it stops teams offering more (but who would), id guess that it just means a team offering that amount would automatically grant them permission to speak personal terms with the player in question and the sellar couldnt stand in his way if he chose to leave

 

Without knowing every players contracts I or you will fully know this.

They don't have to sell for peanuts but if a decent bid came in for them then a League 2 side would have to listen to the bid, like Chesterfield did with Dennis.

 

And it shows Abbott did a good job by knowing about the release clause

 

It could happen, but it doesn't In the majority of cases. It's why highly thought of, in demand strikers almost always go big sums rather than peanuts. We can't rely on finding another Wyke under the same circumstances due to its rarity.

 

Maybe not. but history will give you a rough idea. How many in demand, highly thought of lower league strikers have gone for ridiculously low sums due to a release clause in their contract? Not many. I'd also prefer to be realistic and not hope to rob other clubs blind of their assets. If we want the strikers you've mentioned, we are going to have to pay.