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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Park bantam, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    What is a ‘working man’ these days? Seems more of a term deriving from days gone by when you had the white collar and blue collar workers. Most of the industry that defined the working man has gone now and it seems the the defining line between the parties of upper and working class.
     
  2. Stafford Bantam

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    A couple of stats from that same Survation poll, that support your comment about getting out and voting:
    Number of under 35s certain to vote 53%
    Number of over 65s certain to vote 94%
     
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  3. Bronco

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    I can't see myself voting anything bar Tory or Brexit, but that certainly doesn't put me in the upper class category.
     
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  4. Edin Nowhere

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    So Corbyn as PM being controlled by Nicola of the SNP.

    Not only wanting to overturn the result of one referendum, now trying to overturn the result of two. Clearly indyref2 is part of this deal to get Corbyn into No10.

    If this actually happens democracy is dead. Am I miss understanding this but if there is a no confidence vote Boris would have to resign or someone would have 14 days to replace him otherwise there would be a general election. Why install Corbyn as PM why not just go straight to the people? If they had taken up the offer of a GE 3 weeks ago we would probably be having in the next two weeks. Due to dithering there is no GE and the possibility of a no deal exist is still there anyhow.
     
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  5. Tony Wilkinson

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    Pleased to hear of your conversion to the good side at last, taken you a while....:)
     
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  6. Tony Wilkinson

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    We are the last people to have any say in this or owt else....!!
     
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  7. Rogered Tart

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    You are in the minority mate, i used to visit my grandad with my old fella, always used to kick off when my grandad would berate my dad for voting Tory. Used to accuse him of betraying the working class lol. My dad saw the light years after, he wouldn’t give any MPs the steam off his piss never mind vote for one.
     
  8. Bronco

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    Being purely selfish mate, I voted leave and the only two parties who will deliver are as I said brexit or the Tories.

    I do like some of the proposals in the Labour manifesto unfortunately I don't think the math's are right to deliver them.
     
  9. Tony Wilkinson

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    Sure, I understand, but labour policies are from another planet and can only appeal to the vulnerable and lead to bankruptcy..
     
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    Here's the answer to your question. If Labour call a vote of no confidence then, as you say, they have 14 days to form a government. If they could do this then Corbyn would send in the EU extension request letter, as required by the Benn Act, and then call a general election. But the LibDems won't support Corbyn as interim PM, even though he'd only be PM for a few days before calling an election. So the attempt to form a new government would fail. It would then be up to Johnson to call a GE. He could set the timing of that to ensure that we crash out without a deal in the middle of the election campaign, when parliament is in recess and couldn't stop it.
    So, unless the Lib Dems change their stance, or Corbyn agrees to step aside for a different interim PM (neither of which seem likely) there isn't going to be a No Confidence vote until parliament is sure that Johnson has either delivered an acceptable deal or has sent the Benn Act extension letter.
     
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    When you say "Benn Act" ??? I am presuming you mean the Surrender Act ?
     
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    Bore off. Nobody is surrendering anything. That's just empty rhetoric.

    The great Brexiteer delusion is the idea that if we threaten to leave with No Deal then the EU will cave in and give us concessions. The EU will not give up the backstop, no matter what we threaten and nor will it give us benefits of EU membership without paying our subs. They'd sooner wave is off into the sunset with no deal than compromise their fundamental principles. They've made this clear from the start and they won't shift. The only way we'd get a different deal is to drop May's red lines, which effectively rendered any negotiations dead in the water.

    Johnson knows this perfectly well. He knows he has no chance of getting any improvements on the 'leap in the dark' May deal. So he's trying to blame those who want to stop us disastrously jumping off a cliff for the folly and intransigence of his own government. And people like you unquestioningly swallow his bullshit.
     
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  13. trevor

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    It should be called the quisling act after it has emerged that EU lawyers were consulted and advised on the drawing up of the act to best thwart the government
     
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  14. Tony Wilkinson

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    You're so right, we are being far too soft with the traitors in our midst, you can bet that the remorons will still not shut the feck up even after we have left...
     
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    Just like the Brextremists have been talking shite about the EU for the last 30 years.
     
  16. Tony Wilkinson

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    Ohhh, language, naughty boy, i'm offended, where's my lawyer...?
     
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    The real traitors are the hedge fund owners bankrolling Johnson, who have bet millions on our economy crashing after a No Deal Brexit and stand to make billions when it does.
    These people are deliberately trying to cause economic misery to millions of people in order to line their own pockets. These are the people who don't give a monkeys about our country - the real traitors.
     
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    No, did blair/brown pass pro trade union laws can you name them?

    You are going back a long time otherwise and most trade unions are history/defunct.

    Making money from taking the country into a recession is something else.
     
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