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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Park bantam, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. trevor

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    Lost the argument so criticise the spelling, construction, typeface etc, If you cannot understand it then ask your four year old, They are obviously more intelligent than you.
     
  2. trevor

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    I suggest for your patients sake that you get either your eyes tested or take more interest when dispensing,
    https://www.ibef.org/industry/pharmaceutical-india.aspx

    From the website

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    "India is the largest provider of generic drugs globally. Indian pharmaceutical sector industry supplies over 50 per cent of global demand for various vaccines, 40 per cent of generic demand in the US and 25 per cent of all medicine in UK.

    India enjoys an important position in the global pharmaceuticals sector. The country also has a large pool of scientists and engineers who have the potential to steer the industry ahead to an even higher level. Presently over 80 per cent of the antiretroviral drugs used globally to combat AIDS (Acquired Immuno Deficiency Syndrome) are supplied by Indian pharmaceutical firms."
     
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    Too many idiots about like you about these days, shouting nonsense about complex situations, that really, when it comes down to it, don’t have a fecking clue.
     
  4. trevor

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    Am waiting for anyone to PROVE there will be any delay, It is just the fear factor financed by big money paying journalists to provide scare stories to the media, The government have already said there will be no delay importing medicines they will be allowed to flow freely from the EU
     
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  5. trevor

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    you should know you fit the description perfectly, Instead of joining a debate you are obviously not intelligent enough to take part in you attack others that have taken an interest and are willing to take part. Right or wrong that is what debate is all about, You though are the negative type who attack and criticise anyone who engages in a debate because you have not the mental ability to take part,

    When a debate gets personal you know your right
     
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    *You’re

    As in, YOU’RE a crank.
     
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  7. trevor

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    Thank you, You prove my point admirably. Well done, Enjoy today's game
    When a debate gets personal you know your right
     
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    And yet it is the government that are saying wholesales should increase their stock holding from 4 weeks to 10 weeks. So the journalists are just running with what the government have said in the details they have sent to pharmaceuticals
     
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    Yes agree it is what they have said in the technical papers they have released, but have also said it is a sensible fall back position to take that they believe should not have to be used, It is a precaution not because of supply from the manufacturers rather a hold up at customs if we have no deal, The idea we would deplete our normal 4 week holding because customs took 4 weeks is a bit over the top
     
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    So you are now quoting a report by the industry body from India, funded by the pharmaceutical companies in India to promote those same companies.

    Any chance you can name an Indian Pharmacutical manufacturer?
     
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    If customs take an extra 4 weeks due to lack of regulatory paperwork etc then obviously we would deplete the 4 weeks supply. That 4 weeks supply figure is a national with obvious regional variations that would/could need extra to cover.
     
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    Sandoz, Ranbaxy are two major ones and Sun Pharma who are now the largest who supply various medications like Metformin Anti Virals etc, They supply hundreds of drugs etc to the NHS
     
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    As you are so informed about the Indian pharmacutical industry would you know which country, if any, they prefer to use to regulate their imports into the EU currently? If it is not the UK then they would also be held up by the same new regulatory hurdles that those manufactured in the EU will have to over come. Currently if a medication is authorised in any of the EU nations that carries across the whole EU, when we leave if no deal is in place those drugs will need UK regulatory clearance.
     
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    They are all registered with the appropriate EU licencing bodies, They also supply The EU, UK, and USA
     
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    So Sandoz are Swiss owned and Ranbaxy are Japanese owned.

    Ranbaxy manufacture in Ireland for their EU market
     
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    It seems it's not all been a simply and lucrative a process as the leave side waxed lyrical about. If there is no deal, which is basically what you are saying we should do, even many leavers accept that there needs to be significant contingency plans put in place. You can't just walk away, and to think that is even possible is plain ridiculous when you consider how interwoven things are. And all these risks are supposedly worth some non quantifiable, potential bonus that 'might' come to fruition, half a century down the line. Sometimes it's not easy to consider ramifications for other generations once we're gone, i really hope this turns out that it was all worthwhile. From where i'm sitting it looks like a massive joke, no fcker knows what they are doing, big names have washed their hands of it after setting the brexit bomb off, it is potentially playing a dangerous game. we're assuming other trade deals will just miraculously materialise, anyone can see we really aren't as big a player on the world stage as we think, and it's getting worse. We're fast becoming a set of fragmented small islands, pushed further away from our closest neighbours and allies, on some notion of keeping our 'sovereignty'. Whatever that actually means to a normal working person in their day to day life. If it hits them in the pocket, or with jobs, they'll be bothered.
     
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    They are registered with an appropriate EU licensing body but the delay could happen depending on which one they have used. If they have used UK then the risk would be reduced.
     
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    Ranbaxy manufacture in 8 countries worldwide depending what is being manufactured, The most common generic drugs are made in the huge Indian plant.
    Sandoz is owned by Novartis a Swiss company and again have plants round the world with generic medicines made in India
    Most Pharma companies use dedicated plants for the more technical and high value products that are not yet generic, Once generic they tend to move production to the cheapest plant which is usually in India although China is now gaining a foothold in that market
     
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    Not sure but believe all drugs allowed in the UK have to be licenced here before they can be used, Also they have to be approved by NICE before can be used in the NHS, Some drugs approved for use in the EU are not allowed here by NICE on cost/benefit grounds
     
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    Before any drug can be passed by NICE it needs regulatory authorisation. NICE just decide if the NHS will pay for it.

    Currently if it has passed regulatory hurdles in one EU country that carries across the whole open market. A lot of companies choose a non UK regulator as the UK has a reputation for being strict. If we leave with no deal those medications will not have a license to be used in the UK.
     

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