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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Park bantam, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Offside

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    I live in Cumbria , it's a hole dug in the bushes for us .
     
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  2. Steve1970

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    You have bushes.... Very posh it's your privileged upbringing got you them.
     
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  3. Tony Wilkinson

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    I bet it's only a privet....
     
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  4. Offside

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    Dont " hedge " your bets .
     
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  5. Steve1970

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    I always wondered why there were toilet seats in the hedges in Cumbria.... You learn loads on here.... :unsure:
     
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    Edited for you - you’re welcome.
    :)
     
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  7. Offcomedun

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    Read it again. It's not pretending to be 'news', it's a satirical opinion piece. But many a true word is said in jest.
     
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    Ha, ha. Over? You reckon? It hasn't even begun to get started ffs.

    No one is contesting that it's happening. That's all too grimly obvious. But not evn the staunchest remainer could have predicted they'd be making this much of a balls-up of it quite so early. But then no one really imagined just how spectacularly incompetent this shambles of a government would be
     
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  9. Bronco

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    Lets await the outcome Steve, you always told us the EU weren't going to lay down and although they saying we must stay in alignment with some of the EU rules it's really not going to happen.
    The EU told everyone it could not be done in less than 2 years at best, Boris puts a time limit on negotiations and says were out by the end of December deal or no deal, all of a sudden we hear from Michel Barnier and Andrea Merkel if we get stuck in we can get it done for the dead line.
    A no tariff deal will be acceptable with the UK giving fishing rights to those countries that fish our waters now but WE will tell them what allocation they can take, we give a little they give a little, that's what negotiations are all about, I believe we'll have a better idea of where it's going by the end of July.
     
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  10. trevor

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    A Fishing deal will be tough to negotiate but we cannot continue to be allowed only a sixth of the quota in our own waters, A complete ban on foreign boats would be unreasonable but access must come with concessions in areas important to UK trade
     
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    The EU have continually put out strong rhetoric about "this can't be done" because they know that people within Britain who disagree with the result will lap it up and it sows discord.

    If the UK stay together and don't allow ourselves to be continually divided we would be in a much stronger position anyway.
     
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  12. Bronco

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    Just watched a bit of live debate from the House Of Commons, the SNP are calling for an extension to the brexit negotiations, I think there is a vote on it tonight, Labour were obviously unimpressed as they had less than a hand full in the Commons they know their delay tactics have failed but for some reason the Scots persist with their anti brexit rhetoric, it was far better than watching stand up.
    They kept going on about the Scottish electorate overwhelmingly voting to remain, and it was unfair to take Scotland out, surely the SNP realised the referendum vote was for the whole of the UK to decide, even throwing the old nugget in that many who originally voted leave had changed their minds, I'd think that would be the argument they would put forward as the Scots were mainly remainers.
    I found it amusing that they want to be in charge of their own destiny and be independent from Westminster to make their own decisions for Scotland, yet are quite happy for the EU to make the decisions for them going forward, comedy gold.
     
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  13. Offside

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    The SNP live in dream land , they fail on every calculation to re- join / stay in the EU , there GDP alone on -7% alone bars them , they would have to adopt the euro etc . Sturgeon is trying to pull the wool over our Scottish friends eyes . They will not admit that without all off the UK supporting them they could not have afforded the furlough system . She's a 1 trick pony and so is the whole party .
     
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    Fishing is just 0.1% of the UK economy. Most of the fish caught in our waters is stuff Brits don't eat much - like herring and is exported to the EU. Most of the fish we eat - haddock, cod etc - is imported from Iceland, Denmark and Norway, of which only Denmark is in the EU.
    People get all het up and nostalgic about our tiny fishing 'fleet' but in the grand scheme of things, its an irrelevance.
     
  15. Bronco

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    I'd think whatever we catch someone will buy it, I posted it's a something the EU think we are just going to be giving up because that's the way its been for years, as I say by all means allow the EU fishing boats to fish our waters and give them an allocation in return for a payment for whatever they catch.
     
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  16. Dennis

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    It's very strange how fishing has become such an emotive issue when it's largely insignificant to our economy other than perhaps in Scotland with their fish processing plants. As you say, the vast majority of UK fish catches are sold in the EU and we need access to the Single Market via a free trade deal with the EU for that to continue. Equally, I don't recall any outcry in the 80's and 90's when the Govt allowed in particular English fishing rights to be sold, yes sold, to huge fishing companies from Iceland, Spain and the Netherlands. As a result, more than half of England's fishing rights are now owned by foreign owned companies (one single Dutch company owns more than 20% of England's fishing rights) and that has nothing to do with being in the EU or not. These foreign owned companies will still own the fishing rights in the future. I don't imagine the UK will want to buy back those rights! They won't be cheap.
     
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    Speaking after the talks, Mr Barnier said a deal was "at this point unlikely" unless the UK changed its stance over fisheries and post-Brexit rules on competition.

    If our fishing waters are as insignificant as some say you have to wonder why it's one of the main deals the EU are desperate to get.
    Give us a tariff free deal and Im sure that nice man David Frost will allow the EU to fish our waters each country getting a fishing quota and a yearly fishing agreement at £× per year.
    And if there is no agreement and we walk and trade under WTO rules your post Brexit competition rules will not matter as we will trade on ours and our partners tariffs Mr Barnier.
     
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    It's really not difficult to understand. Our fishing waters are Insignificant to us economically because the types of fish we tend to eat - haddock and cod - come from Icelandic and Norwegain waters. Our fishing waters are not insignificant to EU countries because the fish caught in UK waters are types eaten in large quantities in EU countries. Even those other types of fish caught by UK trawlers are largely sold into EU markets and we will need continued access to those markets to be able to sell the fish.
     
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    I thought that's what I'd posted above, "If our fishing waters are as insignificant as some say you have to wonder why it's one of the main deals the EU are desperate to get", hence why Barnier has made it quite clear the two main parts that we must accept are a level playing field post-Brexit rules on competition and our fishing waters.
    Why would we allow the EU to make us stay inline with decisions made by the EU, if we wanted to bail the likes of British Airways it would be our sovereign governments choice.
     
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    Barnier saying they are our waters but not our fish.........!!

    Yet they are our waters and also our illegals (invaders not fish..!!).......so which is it...?
     
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