Brexit

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/08/brexit-latest-news-brexit-news-boris-johnson-eu-extinction-rebellion/

Looks like the brexit negotiators mean business :

The Government expects to “break international law” with its proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, ministers have admitted.

Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis told MPs it would be in a “very specific and limited way”, adding there are “clear precedents” for countries to consider their international obligations as circumstances change.

It comes after the head of the Government’s legal department resigned over concerns that Downing Street is attempting to overrule sections of the Brexit divorce deal with new legislation.

 

whos gonna want to trade with people they can't trust. we aren't an empire anymore we can't just skip round picking and choosing which bits of the rules we follow like this. everyone will think we're a bigger set of entitled arseholes than they probably already do

 

Life's a bitch, France have done similar turning a blind eye on the asylum seekers crossing the channel in dinghies cruel old world out there.

 

Ironically its only our membership of the EU that places any obligation on france to deal with migrants who want to come here. the first safe country myth that gets parroted a lot is actually an EU gentleman's agreement between member states and nothing more, after brexit they have literally 0 obligation under any international statute to do anything and could wave them on over to britain with complete impunity.

 

Unfortunately it looks like doing this is the only way to convince Michel Barnier and his negotiating team were not joking.
It will be a seven day wonder just like the the Crimea situation plenty of bluster from other countries with regards what Russia did but all forgotten now.

 

They could but would you not be questioning that allowing such actions with regards these asylum seekers could/would be classed as trafficking ?.

 

life's a bitch mate, if we aren't going to be bound by rules we don't feel suit us we can't expect anyone else to

 

Surely you wouldn't condone trafficking and turning a blind eye to what France would be doing would you.

 

you seem to be have no issues with us disregarding international law and fecking about with the good friday agreement so i dont really see how we can then complain when someone else doesn't follow the rules. of course I dont condone trafficking in any form, but people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

 

As I posted they did little with regards Russia's annexing of Crimea.
To make an omelette you have to break a few eggs, remainer MPs had their chance to voter Theresa Mays deal through the Commons they didn't now David Frost with the backing of Boris is playing hard ball.

 

Great reply, you say I have no issues disregarding International Law then say you don't condone trafficking finishing with "but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" love it mate love it.

 

Yet Crimea is still annexed and a part of Russia doing the above has hardly made Russia change their stance.

 

It's pretty simple. If we want tariff-free access to our nearest and largest import and export market (the EU) then we have to be prepared to abide by their standards. If we want to set our own standards and potentially undercut the EU then there will be tariffs and we'll have to suffer the chaos that will go with that, since we are criminally unprepared for such eventuality.

Canada/Australia style deals will not be forthcoming because our proximity to mainland Europe and our volume of trade make such deals unviable for the EU.

If we cut off our nose to spite our face by refusing to accept EU standards then we will be (even more) desperate to do trade deals with other countries. Breaking international treaties before we've even started those negotiations will make us an international pariah, with an even weaker hand than we already hold. It's utter madness, perpetrated by a bunch of public school winkers who are drunk on the archaic notion of British exceptionalism. The future is bleak indeed with these incompetent charlatans at the helm.

 

The agreement was based on achieving and understanding we would get an agreed free trade agreement, If that failed then the agreement failed in parts and would need tidying up which is what the government is doing on the likelihood of the talks failing,
BTY on the leaving agreement that we are accused of breaking the EU have broken it already on the guarantee of Sovereignty in that agreement which they are trying to negotiate away from us in the free trade talks

 

Don't be silly. Saying 'if you want to have free access to our market then you have to accept our standards' is not negotiating away our sovereignty.

 

Yes it is, Insisting we follow EU rules after Brexit is an infringement of our right to rule ourselves, It is a rule not asked by the EU of any other country in a free trade agreement and a rule the EU would never agree to having imposed on itself, It is a clear attempt to subjugate us as a nation and keep control of our domestic policies and clearly breaks the leaving agreement they agreed