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Bantams Bar Refurbishment

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Stafford Bantam, May 20, 2019.

  1. Stafford Bantam

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  2. Plastic Bantam

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    It seriously needs it. It's certainly the ugly duckling of the suites at City. Fair play to Bingley Bantams and all those that have contributed their money, time & effort to the cause
     
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  3. Glenn Ackroyd

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    I met with Keith and Ian Taylor from the Bingley Bantams to discuss the project and I'm really excited about the plans.

    They and other supporters clubs do brilliant work beyond their valuable contributions at supporters board meetings.

    I'd recommend fans attend their nearest supporter clubs and to go along their events. The manager and senior players will be appearing at Q & A meetings in the coming months.

    Bingley Bantams are holding a Beer & Gin Festival at the Northern Commercials Stadium on the 29th June.

    It's only £5 for a day of fun and you'll get to bump into a few of your City heroes.

    Get your ticket here before they sell out.
     
  4. Bigrod

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    I don’t use it, but welcome activity which improves the match day experience for Supporters.

    I spotted the following, “Bingley Bantams are appealing for an interior designer to aid their efforts, in a bid to provide a unique colour and design scheme.

    Keith Taylor, who heads up Bingley Bantams alongside Ian Taylor, said: “We really want to improve the facility and ensure everyone enjoys an improved matchday experience.

    “We are looking for an inspirational colour scheme, which is in-keeping with our heritage’.

    I would have thought that the colours would be Claret, Amber, Black and White? Perhaps the pale blue which has occasionally been used in away strips.

    I think @brisbanebantams@brisbanebantams is a member of Bingley Bantams, perhaps they could post some more information and also advertise their Beer & Gin Do with a separate thread?
     
  5. marshy77

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    Don't use the Bantams Bar but do they have any local beers on? If not, could that possibly be an option in the future if only to support local breweries?
     
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  6. Bigrod

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    If you wanted ‘Cask’ real ale, then the version which would be suitable would be ‘bright/ready racked beer’. The sediment is removed at the brewery and the beer can then be ‘pulled’ fairly quickly.

    The following is professional advice, ‘ready-racked / bright beer no settling is required however wait until the spile has stopped foaming or breathing before tapping. 4. At least two hours prior to serving, tap the beer (for ready-racked beer the barrel can be tapped and served immediately).

    I went to the 1911 centenary celebration meal held at the Midland Hotel. The owner of Saltaire Brewery was sat at the table. They had provided beer for the event (a hybrid of Cascade if my memory is correct). I think they are actually a ‘fan’ of one of the North East clubs, but that shouldn’t be a problem. If Bingley Bantams can arrange a ‘real ale’ (and Gin) festival, with a bit of determination there is no reason why it could not be done. In the first instance they could use ‘pins’ which hold 36 pints, to test the market so to speak.

    I am sure @StaffordBantam@StaffordBantam could act as a consultant/quality controller!;)
     
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  7. Plastic Bantam

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    The problem with having hand pulled 'Real Ale' is that once it's open it has a fairly short shelf life, As it's only open Saturday really it just isn't feasible.

    Also the bars and food have once again been franchised out to Carlsberg so what is served is up to them
     
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  8. Glenn Ackroyd

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    There are limitations on the beers that can be served inside the ground due to our tie in with Carlsberg.

    But it's clear from the suggestions board thread that improving choice and offering craft beer is popular. The Gin and Beer festival will be an interesting event and I'll be attending in both a pleasure and research capacity :)

    We want to pilot a Fanzone which can offer a variety of beers, food and entertainment which currently is not available inside. So hopefully having local breweries will happen. Watch this space.
     
  9. bcfc2015

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    There are plenty of great breweries around Bradford/Leeds that do kegs of good beer which would be great to see and has a longer shelf life. Spurs have strong links with Beavertown brewery in their new stadium.
    But as you say, based on the franchising it'll be cheap lager that costs them maybe 20p a pint to make being sold at a fiver :worried:
     
  10. marshy77

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    Could be wrong but think they have a small brewery within the ground (that could be BS btw :joy:
     
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    You're correct
     
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  12. Stafford Bantam

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    Whilst its true that real ale has a relatively short shelf life, the idea that it is not feasible for City is just plain wrong.

    If you have been to City's matches at Coventry City or Oxford United in the last few season's you would have seen that both Club's provide real ale inside their grounds, including to away fans. Many non-league clubs do the same; Keighley & Worth Valley Railway have handpumps on their trains. Such organisations have found that, despite only opening weekly or fortnightly, it is relatively straightforward to provide real ale and thus boost their income. Even my local club, Stafford Rangers, have real ale on at their matches.

    Having a tie in with Carlsberg does limit options, but even Carlsberg have deals in place, so that they can supply their customers with other breweries real ales, including Adnams, Fullers, St Austell and Timothy Taylor's plus quite a few others. Whether they have the will to do it for City, just for matches, is another matter.
     
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  13. City-since-67

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    Glenn Ackroyd has provided a link above. All money raised will be spent on the Bantams Bar. The more we make the quicker we can finish the project.
     
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    Have you any ideas what you are going to do? Is it a case of a coat of paint and a new carpet or is there money in the budget for other improvements?
     
  15. Steve1970

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    The only downfall is fans won't contribute if they don't have use of the facility but it's a great jesture on your behalf.
     
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    Following my recent visit to the Etihad, I can confirm that despite it being a Carlsberg franchise, that they had hand pumps which were John Willie Lees, a local Greater Manchester brewery perhaps comparable to Taylor’s in size. So cask beer, in a Carlsberg tied stadium. By the way, l think we could do better than JW Lees.

    Add that to your comments about small grounds, then it seems a variety of clubs offer real ale. I know Walsall have a Club which is attached to the stadium which allowed away fans in. Also AFC Wimbledon make a point of their range of beers, “ Real ales in the Your Golf Travel Bar will be as follows: Plough Lane Ale, Wimbledon Copper Leaf, and Wimbledon Windmill Spring Ale. Plough Lane Ale, Wimbledon Common, and Wimbledon Windmill Spring Ale will be served in the back bar”.

    So to put it bluntly, it can be done. Where there is a will there is a way!
     
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    It's certainly true that once a barrel of proper beer is opened it doesn't keep very long and is soon past its best. As soon as oxygen comes into contact with beer it goes off in no time. That was one reason the terrible keg beer of the late sixties and seventies was introduced. Because it was pasteurised and used gas pressure to serve it, it didn't go off quickly and meant that sports clubs and other organisations that really only operated at the weekends could keep a keg going for several weeks. Pubs at the time would shift a barrel in no time so it wasn't an issue for them. A number of real ale outlets suffer from this even today, and while it is very laudable that they offer proper beer, sometimes it can be almost undrinkable. But if you have to chuck out half a barrel, there go your profits. Despite this I'm surprised that more football clubs don't realise that if they sold decent beer at a fair price they'd attract a lot of fans into the ground earlier and sell an awful lot of beer, particularly if people thought that the profits were benefitting the club. I seem to remember at Chelsea the beer was half price between 1pm and 2pm, something I took considerable advantage of.
     
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    Only if its going to make money. There seems to be more demand for better food options than there does for 'real ale'. I honestly don't think there is enough demand to make it viable once every two weeks of the football season.
     
  19. City-since-67

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    Re-decoration of walls and windows etc. Brand new lighting ( 64 ceiling panel lights !!) New ceiling tiles. Additional seating in the form of bar stools and poseur tables. New toilet cubicles / flooring / hand dryers in toilets. This will take us a while to finance fully but we have agreed to take it on and do what we can when we can. Decorating and new lighting is the minimum we have promised during the close season.
     
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  20. Bigrod

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    Well it seems as though it is viable at the grounds that @StaffordBantam@StaffordBantam and I mentioned. City could trial it for say six games?
     

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