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Stats aside I think most would agree that Chicksen isn’t great and we would be a better team if we had a different LB (hopefully Woods is that LB). However, I think he does get a lot of unfair stick. We’ve had some shocking team performances this season and he always seems to be singled out for criticism above and beyond other players. For me, he’s not L1 standard and if we went to move up the table we can’t rely on him in the team. However, the same can be said for quite a few of the players in our squad. Thankfully, DH has gradually phased those players out of the team. I imagine if Woods can stay fit, the same will happen to Chicksen.

 

Yes he gets a lot of unfair stick so let's start a thread that puts the spotlight on him once again. Throw in some dubious and unfounded statistical analysis and let the bashing continue.

 

The only stat that matters is that we're in the bottom 4 and have been all season. We've also played a game more than most teams around us.

We've had some shocking performances, individually and collectively. Some players have under-performed, some are just poor players performing to their level. Chicksen is one of the latter.

This isn't a playground. Honestly - if there isn't an acceptance that some players deserve critique for what we've seen over the last 12 months or so, then there never will be.

He isn't responsible for where we are all on his own. He's just a poor full back in a side that's often been poor. That's about it really.

We have to break this mentality that you're only a 'proper supporter' if you blindly clap everything you see and hear about the club and its players. There's nothing wrong with demanding a higher standard - especially when you consider that we've had our biggest budget for 15 years.

 

Nothing wrong with critique. It's the micro-analysis, singling out for blame and abuse that I object to in what is essentially a team game. No one individual player loses or wins us matches. If everyone kept that in mind during their critiques it would be good.

 

Fair enough. But in my opinion, defensively he’s our weakest link. It’s one of the reasons he regularly comes in for flak. Another reason is the considerable quality gap we have in relation to who he replaced - Meredith. That change epitomises why we’ve regressed so much due to Rahic.

 

Spot on.

 

I agree Caddis is generally very good but he also makes mistakes and gets beaten occasionally. Imagine the vitriol on here if it was Chicksen who gave away that penalty against Shrewsbury!

 

All you need to do is look at the Wyscout reports provided by Dmitry in the city match videos forum!

 

Show me all the pro Chicksen stats you want, it won't change the fact he is god awful.

 

Woods is better than both of them. Close thread

 

Time will tell. The Southend and Barnsley games were 100% bottom 4 performances.

 

Yep. I noticed the 44 and corrected before you posted.
I've also looked at the points total needed for survival in the last 10 seasons. It's near 50 or thereabouts. 52 has been the highest, 50 appears frequently. 2011/12 season was highly unusual in that just 44 points saw a team safe. That won't happen this season. 52 points for safety averages out at just over 1 point per game. This season we might need nearer 54 or 55 but that's a guess.

 

But it’s not a badly formed impression that he gets beat on crosses. It’s reality. As I’ve said, if you can compile USEFUL stats to show how many goals are scored from our left-side for both players, I’m willing to read them. But comparing a player with SIX league starts at left-back against Chicksen’s record is a non-starter for me.

Don’t get me wrong, Chicksen’s criticism is OTT but that still doesn’t negate the fact that fans want to see Wood getting the same chances as Chicksen

 

Brilliant post @JonButterfield , but has already been said - cold hard facts, rarely work on this forum

You should realise is the symbol of a failures during the last season - an example of the incompetence of Rahic/Abbott etc

The fact he's a decent mid-table, at worst, LB is of course not relevant and silly of you to think so

 

I'm not liking all this agreeing!! But you are spot on. I've just post elsewhere that first third of the season gave us just 10 points and we've taken 21 from the next third - and even then the first three of them yielded just a point

 

Who mentioned booing? There are some ‘fans’ that will do that regardless of what threads are created on here. Jon was trying to bring some balance (IMO failed, but the idea was fair) to the debate

 

I think we only needs evidence of our own eyes Wood has been decent in most of the performances I have seen

 

The premise that you can somehow make meaningful conclusions to the relative merits of two players based on a sample of match stats is spurious to say the least. Don't take my word for it. Most of the posters have said similar.

As the justification for this is given as the 'disgraceful' treatment of one the players, I can only assume you didn't deliberately intend to encourage the negativity. In reality the thread only provides oxygen to the bashers.

 

I don't disagree. That stands to logic.

Equally, the fact that we used our limited finances in January to bring in a left back also tells a story. Especially when you consider that we didn't strengthen in other key areas like left wing and centre forward.