Next Permanent Manager (now with Poll amended to include Truemen/Sellars)

There are lots of experienced managers knocking about the lower divisions. Just because they're experienced doesn't mean they're any good. They usually have a bit of success somewhere which enables them to keep getting jobs, but their failures generally outweigh their successes. They might have once inherited a good squad from the previous manager who went on to higher things or they might have just got lucky. Clubs go with them as a safe option rather than go with someone untried. No one wants to look stupid if it all goes wrong. And these managers tend to have an ultra cautious and defensive frame of mind. They're dull, and their football is dull. They wander from club to club before finally no one wants them and they call it a day, or take something like an academy job.
We've hit on two young coaches with nothing to lose and eveything to gain. Give them the job and see how far it takes us.

 

I think he would get on well with a few on here
http://argyle.life/analysis/the-fall-of-derek-adams/

 

Take your point Idle but, it doesn't always work.
David Moyes was highly thought of at Everton
but when he went to Man U he failed miserably
despite all the backing he had.

It's a bit of an enigma but not all bad at the moment.

If we delay appointing a permanent manager, anyone
we have hoping to get the job may give up and move on.

If we don't have a permanent manager by the time the
window opens it will be harder to attract players.

T&S have astonished me with this upturn in form. I
got to the point of believing we would get beat every
game but now I feel we have a chance against anyone
in this league but we will get beat at some point and
how will the players and managers react to that?
I agree,
appointing T&S after an unbelievable but short period
would be unwise. Hopefully a good experienced manager
with thorough knowledge of this league and who knows
what we need to progress would be advisable. Keep T&S
and improve their contracts but I think other clubs will of
seen our sudden change in form and who is responsible.

It would be a shame if they were headhunted and we lost
what may in the future, of been a successful partnership.

 

Hey guys, Hurst is 6/4 to get Grimsby job, if they offer him it I wouldn't be surprised if he takes it, we shouldn't be messing around, if we are interested in Hurst we need to make the move otherwise he is Grimsby bound. Hurst will only wait so long and to be honest if I was a manager I wouldn't be messed about like this, I'd say you have 24hours to make a decision or I won't be coming

 

I disagree, with the greatest of respect. IMHO, they have everything to lose. They have a steady role at the Academy, bringing on young players. We've seen from the likes of Staunton and to a lesser extent F C-D, that they seem to be doing a pretty good job. Why would either of them risk that for the (potential) glory, but much more probable vilification waiting for them, from the press and platforms like this, if things don't go too well with the first team? Trueman was on record early on saying he didn't want it. Personally, I would be pleased if they were offered it, but I can see why they might turn it down, and maybe that's why the decision hasn't been rolled out yet.

 

I sincerely hope not, the man is an even more negative Gary Bowyer. Leave him at Morecambe.

 

I personally would like to see how Trueman and Sellars work when things are going tough and things are going against them, yees they have done wonders so far but what would they do when form dips? How would they react? How would the team react? Questions we are yet to know. Biggest decision managerial wise EVER,

 

They may have nothing to lose, but if Sparks gets the appointment of the next manager and the January transfer window wrong, the club could lose its league status. The first PL club to lose their league status would be a black mark on his CV.

 

Is it someone else we are waiting to become free of compo or to leave a club?
Seems weird why we would wait for Hurst or visa versa when he’s been out fo work now for nearly a year

 

Last week I was in favour of Hurst, and that the club made a quick decision. I do think it is a mistake for us to be hanging around like this, especially with January approaching and other clubs looking for new managers.
Now though it is becoming harder and harder to not appoint T&S. You can't ignore their incredible start much longer. In all likelihood now they will be in the dugout on Tuesday and if we win that I think it becomes impossible to not give them an 18 month contract at least.
One thing that I've noted from their interviews is that they clearly put a lot of emphasis in training on when we are out of possession, something that I get the feeling is McCalls neglects far too much and it shows on the pitch.

Just as a side note, seen a few calling for them to get a deal until the end of the season and if it doesn't work out they go back to the U18s. I really don't think this would work at all. Firstly, we will have to bring in new U18s coaches / manager now and that position won't be available at the end of the season and secondly its very difficult for anyone to accept a demotion and I expect a lot of people would just walk (Championship Academy jobs would be far more attractive and realistic).
We either back them like we would any other manager or we don't at all

 

Offer them the deal that if it doesn't work out they go back to their previous jobs.

 

Incidentally, have I missed something or have we had no injuries since T& S took over?

 

Blimey, it's not just the results though is it, look at how the team have bonded, the much improved attitude and confidence let alone skill, these 3 wins were no flukes they have been the result of all these things and more...It's T &S all the way for me......

 

And sack the replacement we bring for them in May?

 

I 100% agree with you about how much the work of the ball has improved. It’s something I thought Stuart was going to do after the much improved performance against Cheltenham but unfortunately he reverted to type the next match

 

Here he goes.. the delivering McCall a shit sandwich.

Why don't you give your options straight.

 

I'm sitting here with an almost full glass of Purity best bitter and thinking your glass is a bit empty. That was a typical away performance. Wood had a couple of decent efforts in the first half, one of which was quite close and Cooke should have scored in the second so we could have won by more. We've all seen many games that could have gone either way and the winner NEVER complains. A couple of weeks ago, we would probably have lost that by more than one but in the last 4 games, we have kept 2 clean sheets and only 1 opponent has scored against us. I admit my record of backing managers is hardly perfect; I wanted Bowyer and no one on here defended Stuart more than me but I think we can hold on and give these 2 longer to show what they can do and if in the meantime, Hurst signs elsewhere, there are more fish. Both of our incumbents come across as very level headed.

 

My opinion for what it's worth is we won't do anything untill 4th jan
Then and only then will Sparks & Rupp speak to Trueman & Sellers
If they both want the job it will be theres
if not Hurst if he has not gone to Grimsby he will be offered the job
Failing that it will be onto the next prefferd man
Hopefully Trueman & Sellers know where they want to improve the team and a DOF of there choice is in the building and take the job and they keep up the good work they have started

 

What if the club doesn’t make a decision and we lose are next to or 3, is it still them all the way...