James Vaughan

Yet that is exactly what Vaughan said to Stuart, if you read yesterdays T & A.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing mate, didnt hear many complaining when he talked Mark Marshall round, and we got a great season from him, Stuart was honest and said he hoped getting back to training might give him the feel good factor, I never saw James Vaughan as a player who was just happy to be a part of a team he liked to be in the limelight, and the list of his previous clubs suggests there might been problems in the past.

 

I thought his contract was ended and he signed for Tranmere essentially as a free agent? If that's true, why on earth would we be paying a contribution towards his wages?

 

He has probably taken a pay cut

 

Tranmere give us some money for JV

No. We cant afford a fee and his wages.

Fine, JV do you wanna go to tranmere?
Yes.
Fine let end your contact mutually so you can go to tranmere.
Ok


Thats what happened! i do not understand why we would have to pay him out, if that was the case it would make more sense to keep him financially and tactically!

 

Sounds spot on and is the usual method of paying players off " By mutual agreement"

 

You are right King Cole, something doesn't add up right, however, we will probably never find out the ins and outs of what the mutual agreement settlement was, for example.

I am glad he has gone, but not at the expense of Tranmere and Vaughan outmanouevering us.

I hope, but not holding my breath, that the powers that be at the club have learnt a valuable lesson. Probably not, as Agard rocks into town, and then demands we pay him off in 6 months when he gets homesick!

 

There is absolutely nothing to point to us paying any money to Tranmere he demanded the move so forfeited any claim for compensation

 

I know this has been "done to death", but something ain't right!!

Tranmere reckon they've been working "really hard" to get the deal done to sign Vaughan, for over four months. FOUR MONTHS!!! Now, how could it have taken four months to do a deal for a guy who, not only wanted away, but had his preferred club, trying to sign him? How come the deal was completed just after the introduction of the salary cap?

My cynical take is that Vaughan returns to pre season with, we now know. a negative attitude, which was disrupting the atmosphere and undermining McCall. He wants to return to Tranmere. City want shut pronto and contact Tranmere. Tranmere say "the cap is now restricting how much we can pay him so, if you want rid, you'll have to make a settlement for the unexpired portion of his contract with you, to cover his financial loss. He's two years left on his deal with you so we'll offer him a two year contract, in line with the cap limits and you pay up his contract for the difference to what he was earning with you". Now Parker reckons City will be saving £300K+ over the remaining two years of his contract. That figure is Vaughan's loss, offset by a potential average max cap salary at Tranmere of £68K per year x 2 years. By my hypothetical scenario, that's a potential payout of £164K, (£300K - £136k)!!!

McCall was lulled through summer ,in his conversations with Vaughan, into thinking he could talk him around. As the cap deadline looms, things turn nasty and, hey presto, our bargaining power is shot to pieces as the cap deadline is upon us. We're stuck with a highly paid player, who's made it clear he's not going to make much effort and is disrupting discipline within the squad as he ambles through training. From having a player we're hoping to get a fee for, we're now desperate to offload, almost at any price, as his continuing presence could wreck our season.

I hope I'm wrong, but how else could the deal have been done?

By coincidence, I was writing my post, on similar lines to yours. I can't see how else the deal was done.

 

So if Tranmere can’t fit the payment into the salary cap how can we. We have been told we are well within the cap at the moment so how does that work

 

Tranmere will not have received any money from us but Vaughan most certainly will have sold his contract to the club to leave at a negotiated rate, Anyone who thinks he gave up a £200k a year contract for one at the salary cap for 2 years is in cuckoo land,
The deal however made up would involve a payoff to Vaughan

 

Why would we pay of someone who we didn’t want to lose everything points to the fact that he walked away from his contract. As I say any payment payed to him would have come out of our salary cap

 

He was on 3 1/2 grand a week, i'd expect we've saved a large percentage of that as Vaughan has taken a pay cut to go to Tranmere. Might be a case of us making up the short fall.

 

Because sometimes you have to take a hit to do the best thing for the rest of the team.

 

Because that is how contracts work, They are paid up at an agreed rate,

 

Because he's earning approx £80K per year less at Tranmere than on his contract with us. The alternative is we pay him £150K a year for two years to disrupt the squad and wreck our season. His negative presence on the training ground was a major disruption, so we'd have had to pay him to stay at home. Cheaper to pay him off.

 

I think this is just another made up,stick to throw at the club . If compensation had been paid it would have come from salary cap,it didn’t happen

 

Yes if we had cancelled his contract we would have. He wanted to be released from it so he walked away with nothing