Where will it end... 12th September as it happens

Go on. Explain in your wiser wisdom dear pompous one, why I am blinkered?

Relate the answer to your original posting and don't feel the need to sidetrack the issue.

And I quote your very words...

That’s right but they certainly won’t be rushing to go back because they are comfortably managing as are people who were already on universal credit who will be a hundred a pound Or so a month better off for a year.
I know of one person furloughed by his employer and his casual part time work he is not in a rush to go back.

The platform is yours.

 

My brother in law has had the test for it today, a key worker because he's NHS but not frontline. He works from home a fair bit even before the virus but for some god knows reason has been in London for a week, something to do with these daily briefings. They were the only ones in the hotel but he thinks he has the symptoms. Looking back i'm sure the wife has had it, shes had the test and i din't even realise. But we think she had it at the end of last year, one of the pointers being her wierd loss of smell. I'd guess millions of us having unwittingly had it, just unlucky if you happen to die from it.

 

Read this morning papers most have stories about how difficult it is going to be to persuade people who have most of their wages paid to return to work. And I don’t blame them why would anybody want to increase their chances of being exposed to the virus if they didn’t have to. No one is criticising anybody work ethic. Or minimising the suffering some people are going to endure through job losses. Persuading people to return to work whilst the scheme is running will be harder oh blinkered one

 

Park, am I missing something. I don't get why people have to be persuaded. They are still employed. They can't choose not to go back if there employer wants them to.

 

Go on, link to the paper(s) firstly.

Interesting you use today's newspapers as reference when you went with this 'thinking' yesterday.

 

Many people like my son who works in an office in London have been given a choice under these circumstances people can’t be forced to work

 

An example

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11608755/brits-desire-stay-home-paid-wages-furlough/

 

Chris Taylor released. What a waste of time that's was, shocking player.

 

Of course they can unless they can show it isn’t safe.

Other options would be unpaid leave, holiday, or sick.

 

I've found some more data for my estimating footballers' risk and it will help many workers appreciate theirs. (Scroll down and click on Pre-existing Conditions)

http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

Only 28 of those aged 20-39 with no pre-existing conditions have died from Covid-19. (117 with pre-existing conditions.) That's for England only. The UK population aged 20-39 is about 17 million so I reckon the English population of that age group is a little over 14 million. 28 deaths from 14 million! 0.0002%. As I posted earlier - about 1600 males commit suicide in that age group each year. Even deaths amongst 40-59 with no previous conditions is only 184 from around 15 million (1401 with pre-existing conditions).

Of course we don't want healthy people spreading it to the vulnerable and older people but risks to most of those of working age who are healthy look very low - and much of that risk came from infections before social spacing kicked in so risk should be even lower now.

 

Bowyer's mate though!

Waste of time! Hope he finds another club but doubt it will be in the football league.

 

You are ignoring that the more people that get it the harder it is to protect the vulnerable though?

Nobody is really saying that footballers are at a real risk of death. Just that by needlessly mixing in close quarters you put others at risk and nobody is really pushing for that to happen for entertainment purposes.

 

Utter nonsense!

First of all tell this to every one on the tubes In London, those going back to work. Estate agents going in strangers houses or teachers going back to school.

Footballers will be getting tested twice a week and will be in the safest working place for covid 19.

I can't have moaning footballer and it tends to be the PL players but ask Chris Taylor if he would play tomorrow?

Oh and football is a business!

The virus is here to stay. We need to live with it.

 

Well I don't have to tell them. Everyone going on the tube or to work is putting themselves more at risk than they were at home. That's just common sense.

As we slowly open the economy back up there will be things that are first and things that will be last. Entertainment quite clearly and logically will be later.

 

They should first reopen that which generates most tax for the NHS from the least exposure of vulnerable people. Football actually fits the bill very well for that.

If the NHS runs out of money, it will be the vulnerable that suffer most. We need to start generating taxes again. That's probably why they reopened estate agent offices - minimal social mixing if managed carefully but plenty of stamp duty. The longer we stay closed, the less tax there will be from PAYE and the more unemployment benefit they will have to pay as more and more people will lose their jobs and consumer spending slumps more. To minimise this, we have to take some awkward decisions and get things moving again.

 

From the perspective of football remaining - or being restored as - accessible to all at a reasonable price, and supporter interests being protected, football behind closed doors need to be a shite experience from which most people disengage.

 

Championship set to be back before Prem as EFL close in on Jun 6 restart

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4094314/english-championship-to-return-on-june-6-before-premier-league--sources

 

We're not slowly opening up the economy at all.

Football is a business and it's not opening up until June anyway.

 

I wonder why people are going back to work then? hmm?

It is. Not sure why it's relevant.

 

There's no prospect of the NHS running out of money,

The fact that millions of people are on furlough is probably a bigger drain on resources than anything else anyway.