COVID-19

I disgaree with that, we need perpsective and the predicted death toll now appears hugely lower than previously thought. With the victims mostly already older and with health problems, the risk to us is minimal, yet we've shut the world down? It might now be worth the finincial pain, we don't know but I do know herd opinion is forming way quicker than herd inmmunity!

There are some interesting articles,especially ones questioning the reliablity of the goverments scientific advisors.

 

China built several emergency hospitals. Italy, Spain, France, S Korea, Iran, parts of the USA and many more civilised first world countries are in almost total lockdown. Unprecedented financial packages from our and other governments to hopefully save society as we know it. Exams cancelled for the first time ever. EVER. Sport gone. Soap operas gone. Cinema gone. West end shows gone. Pubs shut, restaurants shut. Could go on.

But abbomf in Bradford thinks it's an overreaction.

 

Dont forget the Dutch PM.


It's an unprecedented reaction, nobody know yet whether it''ll be worthwhile, I don't see how it can be unless the governments June timescale is the target. A year? Forget it, it won't be worth it.

 

I remember learning about Normalcy bias during GCSE social science.

 

We are in to our2nd week of total lockdown
Just announced
Further two weeks, fines for disobeying up to 60,000. Euros

 

talking sense away from football

 

The problem we have at the moment is this; this has never happened before on such a global scale in a modern world. We have plenty of experts, but none have the exact solution to this pandemic.

It is spreading so fast, I would want to look at transmission again. In theory it is a respiratory virus, so therefore any fluids coming out of an infected person can land on hard surfaces and soft, however there are differing estimates as to how long this transmittable virus can live on surface. The fact that the required distance is 2 metre’s gives you an indication of two points, one of them is it is highly infectious ie you don’t a lot of this virus to catch it, and secondly just talking to someone closer than that you may be able to get infected.

I actually think the Politicians are in a lonely place right now, whatever they do is being criticised by every man, woman and dog. Nevertheless, they are in exactly the same place as the rest of us, reliant on experts to advise them what to do. Twitter et al are full of experts, and criticism with impunity. We live in a free society with rights and privileges, and lots of ppl are kicking against it. Well I have news for them, with those rights comes responsibility, and it is up to every single citizen in this country to listen and act on what the government is advising, and it is your own responsibility to do just that. What I also know is there appears to be a severe lack of common sense within our country. What on earth possessed ppl from London and the South to take off to other parts of the country and infect them!!! This can only lead to further draconian measures being taken.

 

Unless its by design. I said weeks ago, there’s something else at play here.

 

I don't go close to mum, she is 83. That's sensible.

But buses are still running, so are trains, people were in Mcd's in Shipley today, mingling, touching the same screen. We go out & touch without thinking, buttons, door handles, touch screens, grab rails, how far do you go? Hoochy mentioned Spain, France, Korea, Iran and the USA, if you added on The Netherlands and asked one month ago which was the most sensible & rational society, most would have chosen The Netherlands, have they suddenly gone bonkers or are they right? Of course, I hope both ways are proven right.

The High St won't recover, British Airlines is burning through £200m A WEEK, the hospitality industry is knackered, Primark won't pay for good already shipped to them! Jobs have gone that won't come back. If this carries on then the young (not the old) will pay for this for decades, when the ones we are trying to protect, along with me, will have, one way or another, long been dead.

My point right from the start was that I hoped the reaction would not end up costing us more than the affect of the virus.

John Ioannidis - Professor of Medicine, of epidemiology and population health, of biomedical data science, and of statistics at Stanford University in California:- "A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05 per cent is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.’"

 

Swot.

 

Unless social distancing is enforced by law, we will continue to have idiots like this exacerbating the problem.

 

Risk Compensation Theory had more of an impact on me.

 

Do nothing and the estimate was 500,000 in this country. 450,000 British died in World War 2 of which only around 130,000 were civilians. Think I’ll take the WHOs advice on board

 

Don’t fear we’re all safe except a few old people who’d have died anyway etc https://apple.news/A1kbxKrTFQsqYOVzAnCZXlw

 

Wow poor @Onside @Bronco @Park bantam and anyone other 70.

What you saying is we should let people die to just move on and protect the economy.

 

No, that is something you have made up, not something I said.

 

Good post. Agree