Election 2019 (with Prediction Poll)

With any sort of credible opposition Labour should be walking this coming election, and yes I've voted Labour all my life.

 

Was just about to post something similar. Labour should be walking this election, the fact they aren't tells you something is fundamentally wrong in either their policies and/or their party itself. Im my eyes its a bit of both which is a shame because not personally being a voter of either party i would have liked to see what Labour could have done in respect of public services and utilities. But then i look at their leader and the team he has assembled under him and shudder at the thought of them being in control of this country. To me its not so much their policies, of which some i agree with, its the lunatic that would be running the asylum if they got in.

 

Is really a success story or just doing what everyone has the chance to do?

 

There was a presenter speaking to voters from the North East, I forget which constituency it was but they had only ever returned a Labour candidate, many were saying they would not be voting Labour as they thought they'd been let down with regards there stance on brexit.
It's a crying shame Boris and the Tory party did not play ball with the Brexit party and stand down in strong Labour constituencies where maybe life long Labour supporters wouldn't vote Tory but would vote for the Brexit party.

 

Boris the liar.

I don't think everyone has the opportunity and not from an equal footing. The gap is widening the whole time.

 

Hoochy world has never existed m8.

 

But what sort of background are we talking about Hoochy? Born and bred council estate, I'm not successful I'm just doing ok and anyone with hard work can that and more.

 

I'm the same, council estate, broken home etc and I'm doing alright largely down to being reasonably bright so I could always pass exams without too much effort. Pretty lucky for me. The other thing in my favour was a decent upbringing and a bit of culture here and there. Visits to museums, trips to the theatre, cinema, days out to new places, playing games with my parents and siblings, eating together at the table, baking. Wholesome family life you might say despite divorce and what that brings with it. I try and do these things with my kids now as I'm sure lots of people do.

Lots of kids don't have that right now. Lots of the parents of these kids didn't either. So you have kids starting school and they're already miles behind their peers because they don't know about manners and taking turns. They don't know simple things like milk comes from a cow because nobody talks to them. They don't have the patience to listen to instructions or the resilience to stick at a task because it isn't as easy as watching a screen. They can't read body language or faces because they don't get spoken to enough. You might find one or 2 like this in a class or there might be 25 in some areas. Postcode lottery of life. Have you seen the life expectancy of the different Bradford postcodes?

To enrich the whole society we need to make steps to stop this cycle of poverty. New Labour's Children's Centres were fantastic and they've gone with austerity. A generation let down. Knife crime among the young is up and investment in youth services is down. It's all linked. Poverty leads to crime, drugs etc and that impacts the whole society.

There's no way there's ever going to be a perfect world or even a perfect UK but I'd rather at least try to make a difference to wider society.

 

Under this government we've seen a rise in poverty, rise in household debt, rise in food banks, cuts to schools, cuts to the NHS, cuts to the polic force, Surestart centres closed, libraries closed, etc etc and there are some that believe they have our best interests at heart?

The fact that many of us are fortunate enough to live comfortable lives in the way of opportunities, good healthcare etc are down to policies that were brought in several decades ago, not because Theresa May revolutionised British politics.

 

A lot of what you say there is nothing to do with politics, its down to parenting. A good friend of mine is now a full time foster carer, most of the kids he's had so far have not been let down by the state, they've been let down by feckless parents who quite frankly should never have had the privilege of being able to procreate. Its easy to apportion the blame to others, my parents were brought up in inner city Bradford, both worked but still found time to bring me and my brother up to value others and what we had. Too much of this blaming others when the truth is much closer to home in most households.

 

You can blame the parents to a certain extent but some of these patents have not had good role models themselves. This is where Children's Centres had an impact. Part of their remit was to actively seek out these people and bring them in to support them with parenting skills and training to improve their life chances. I was involved in an excellent centre in Girlington and I saw lives transformed by the support that was available.

 

I'm not against environments which can have a positive effect on children who otherwise have had no chance in life. But a lot of times, by the time they get to your childrens centres its too late. The positive role model effect should always come first and foremost from your parent/s. If not we should be asking why?

 

Do you consider the bbc a left wing rag too?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-48516196/trump-nhs-on-the-table-in-us-uk-trade-deal?SThisFB&fbclid=IwAR3ohOHztOWJ7dOW9EQrO4oSu6AJ_XwVtaa2mqPqZFQ6NhM6ti_49HvGgQE

 

It does tend to lean more to the left yes, thats well known

 

I agree that parenting has a huge impact on a child's chances but material conditions also affect a parent's ability to give those chances. If somebody is working two jobs to survive they're clearly gonna have less time, energy and resources to devote to their children than a stay at home mum who can afford to give their kids piano lessons and take them to their theatre. That's how inequality is passed between generations.

 

Don't be obtuse. There's a video there of Donald Trump saying the NHS would be on the table in trade discussions. If you're not willing to acknowledge that then you're clearly not able to engage in a good faith discussion.

 

Why does everything have to boil down to money? I was with a foster child last night, pretty much given anything he wants, meals out, materialistic things in the hope it might stop him going off the rails. Doesn't work. The love of a parent/s from the beginning of his life would have had a far more positive effect on his life. A stable home life is far more important than anything else.

 

It's not JUST about money, there are tons of rich people who are shitty parents. Money does bring stability though, and parents with money tend to have more free time to devote to their children, and less stress so are more emotionally available.

 

That is old news and Trump rescinded the statement, Not that the BBC would publish the retraction as it has an agenda against Trump from the day he was elected when a supposedly unbiased reporter from the BBC on newsnight claimed he had a mental problem and was mentally unbalanced, The BBC has a huge bias to the left and has always been sympathetic to the Labour party, If in doubt watch episodes of newsnight where they often Boris and Tory bash with guests from Labour supporters but few Conservative supporters who are usually cut short by presenters,