Transfer Rumours 2019/20

We’ll sign him the moment you understand what a tongue-in-cheek p*ss take post looks like

 

Hanson was far better equipped for the role Doyle was asked to play last season

 

Scoring goals?

No chance! Hanson goal return is shocking and that's a forwards main job.. scoring goals!

 

Ok and by that logic, (which is fair BTW), there wasn’t much difference between their contributions last season.

Hanson scored 5 in 1707mins (ave 1 in 340).
No penalties.

Doyle scored 11 in 3413mins (ave 1 in 310).
Four penalties.

Based on that, neither have a record to be proud of but it doesn’t back up your argument that Hanson isn’t fit to lace Doyle’s boots. Their records are very similar from last season and, when you take out Doyle’s pens (yes I know they still have to be scored), the harsh reality is that his ave from open play is 488mins/goal against Hanson’s 340mins/goal

 

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No need to paint Hanson like hero. He hadn't scored in his last 6 appearances for Wimbledon.

Perhaps if he had scored more than 5 goals last season he'd have kept them up earlier? He obviously wasn't the only reason Wimbledon struggled last season, but more than played his part with an abysmal goal return.

Personally, I want players on the bench who can push the first 11 close for a starting spot, or play the role of 'super sub' in the mould of Steve Davies. If all you're after is someone tall who can come on for the last 20 minutes then I suppose Hanson fits the bill, although I'd argue that there are cheaper alternative available who are probably not on the decline either.

 

Hallelujah! Someone else understands.

For some of this board it's almost seen as a bonus if a centre forward can actually put the ball in the net.

 

Presence>scoring

 

I think it's only our fans who judge strikers solely on how many headers they win.

 

It’s not only that it’s holding the ball up bringing others into play we badly missed that last season one of the reasons we were so bad and the reason Bowyers main target is that type of forward

 

I don’t think Josh Wright will be going to Leyton Orient now unfortunately!

 

I was a big fan of Hanson during his time with us. Never understood the criticism he received from some fans. Hanson contributed to some of the best moments of my City supporting life. He is also in the top 3 of our all time goalscorers, so deserves far more respect than some are prepared to give him

All that said, I firmly believe we sold him at the right time, as he had peaked and had started an injury hampered decline.

Would I have him back?. Definitely not, I would prefer to remember his time with us from the 2013 era, and his partnership with Wells.

I do find it amusing though, that even after 18 months since he left us, he commands pages of debate amongst us. I suspect the likes of Eoin Doyle, will never do so

 

Don't see why, the club still has to function and prepare for the season ahead...

 

Both underperformed last season, I'm certainly not trying to make out that Doyle is a great striker. There still is a difference between the 2.

With Hanson, there's no dispute that he's on the decline. He was shot to pieces before he had left us and has failed to make an impact at any of the 3 clubs he's played at since. He's now underperformed for what I would class as a prolonged period of time and on the back of that, I don't believe that even his biggest fans are seriously expecting him to rediscover his old form.

The argument for Doyle is that he arguably still has more left in the tank (you only have to go back a year to find something of note) , was clearly subject to mismanagement as what made him successful at Oldham wasn't employed here and still managed to outscore Hanson despite it.

Maybe, like Hanson, Doyle is also flushed up and last season was a sign of things to come. Right now though, there's enough doubt to suggest that he hasn't quite plummeted to the depths that Hanson has, and that any comparisons suggesting otherwise are misplaced.

 

You miss my points, who for you is understandable as you seem to do it a lot.

Your original comment, the one I responded to said you didn’t want to compare their historic records. You added “As I said, it has no relevance and as things stand, I'd much prefer Doyle to Hanson”. But now you’re changing the goal posts and wanting to compare Doyle’s contribution from last season to Hanson’s.

Hanson has clearly been struggling with injuries. This started before we sold him and hadn’t got any better. For this reason, I wouldn’t want him back.

But my point stands. Last season Doyle played twice as many minutes as Hanson (definitely an area you can criticise Hanson about), but only managed double the number of goals . So pro-rata, their records are comparable. And when only considering goals from open play, Doyle only scored 2 more than Hanson despite playing twice as many minutes.

 

A fair summary, and comparison. Only time will tell, I guess.
Either way ..... City need a better plan up front than we saw last campaign.

 

Sitting on the fence a little here, but one further point to add (In Hansons favour) ....... Although a strikers directive is to score goals, JH had more to his game than just that - which we didn't see from Doyle, at any time.

 

If we are only interested in bringing old players back maybe someone can call in at the dog and gun and ask Barry what he is doing next season.

 

But Justin was a personal friend. He even went to Wright’s wedding !

 

Agreed but if at the end of every move we fail to actually put the ball in the net then the end result is the same.

Ultimately a striker has to score goals, without that the team will struggle regardless of how much he brings others in to play.

 

I think Hanson's best attribute in the latter
stages of his time with us was "what other
teams thought he was capable of, rather
than what he was actually doing for us."