Seems some never learn

It can't be an issue though.

Either it's allowed, like against Millwall at Wembley, or it isn't.

Its pretty simple.

 

I find I can’t take anything or rules imposed by the Fa or EFL seriously. I also think that a number of older fans seem to forget what it is like to be young. Of course they wanted to celebrate, the players had gone to the touchline to celebrate with them, in such a season as this who would deny them that pleasure.

I will start to take the powers that be seriously when they apply the rules equally across all clubs. How can we be fined for this, none of the fans were on the pitch. There was no violence or even a threat of violence. The letting off of smoke bombs is another matter and should be treated separately. Yes we will happily take a fine when they apply the same scrutiny into the appalling behaviour of Millwall fans at Wembley. I won’t hold my breath!

 

Still feel that ultimately any invasion of the playing surface or pitch perimeter could be perceived to put players and officials at risk. Yes,I'm one of the oldies on here..I love being amongst young people and as many of my age ..wish they were back in their teens!

 

If the FA and League enforced the rule about players leaving the pitch without permission many of these borderline incidents would not happen. The authorities should look at their own lack of enforcing rules before throwing clubs under the bus.

 

I can't remember my teens

 

3 year ban You’d be doing them a favour . Talk about OTT

 

Honestly, the reaction from some is priceless. Its gettmg to the stage where you daren’t celebrate for fear of upsetting someone. Remember the Leeds game at VP in the cup. Leeds fans going mental when they scored, then we did the same. Maybe they should have just sat down and politely clapped when they scored.

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/31/policed-football-fans-enemy-manchester-city-bournemouth-police-stewards?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

Worth a read on the subject

 

A very good piece, a common sense approach. We have to remember that football in this country is pretty much the best policed in the world and to an extent is also the most sanitised. We have to come down heavy handed on football violence but what happened against Peterborough? A sense of perspective please.

 

It's the way football is run - one minute the 'agenda' for referees is the amount of time the keeper has the ball in hand. Forgotten now, never to be punished again. Then it's goalkeepers moving off their line on penalties - watch it like a hawk!! (for a few weeks).

But when it's fan encroachment, and the law is potentially involved, and fans face multi-year ban?

Yeah, not acceptable. You can't flip-flop on these issues.

 

If they hand any bans out before I renew my season ticket I might volunteer my name as one of the hoodlums celebrating a goal.

 

Sorry about appearing inactive but my IT has been down for this site until about one hour ago. There is much comment and I will try to clear as much as I can in one go.

First the good news. I have been responsible for most of the Club's responses to the FA on all issues over the last three or four years so I know how it works. Since and including Rochdale I have made our representations about crowd trouble. I am please to say I got us off further action in the case of Dale and in the last hour I have been successful in avoiding further punishment for Walsall BUT the FA will at some point say "enough is enough" and take stern action against us as repeat offenders and thus we have to take stern action ourselves. Many have said the Posh incident was "just young kids...", no it was not, adults were also there and yes there was encroachment on the pitch which we specifically say is an offence. Attention has rightly been drawn by a poster to the outcome of the Newcastle fans at Bournemouth and their punishment. At some point someone has to suffer the consequences so Posh may have been minor but it happened and we are facing the consequences which could be a fine, points deduction or ground closure, all of which affect the viability of the Club. Not saying that will happen and I make a robust defence to FA charges but totting up will show we are in a poor light.
Some have asked about Milwall at Wembley, QCFC has it right. James Mason and I attended a meeting with the FA, EFL and Wembley Stadium and were advised in the light of the events at that game sweeping changes had been made to security, blah, blah, blah. The whole blame was put on the Stadium Company, the FA and EFL breathed a sigh of relief and quietly dropped our complaint despite several reminders from James.
Some on here are right to suggest there is a hardcore of 12 to 16 year olds but there are also adults who appear to know no better and the trouble goes on, largely at games which are a big travel distance when it is too far or too costly to attend, example being Pompey where there was no trouble. Come 80 miles or so nearer to Bradford and at Oxford we again have trouble with youngsters ripping out a seat and throwing it, apparently aiming at the pitch but hitting a fellow fan causing injury. Imaging the result if the seat had made the pitch and hit the Assistant Ref or a player? We are currently working on this with Oxford and lucky us the Ref did not report.
This CANNOT go on and whilst it is clear many regard my statement as over the top I hope those will at least agree there comes a point where we have to draw a line.

Any other comment on the subject I will be happy to answer, in the meantime our FA response for Posh goes in on Friday.

 

And also good timing, Phil. City shouldn't need to remind supporters of the rules. Fans throughout England are more than happy to slag off the opposition players, at will - Yet IF a player responds, you can guarantee that said supporter will tell his tale of 'woe and anguish' to every media stream willing to listen.

We ALL know the rules, and they are not hard to conform to. It's the fans who defy them, then screech like petty adolescent school girls ("It wasn't just me, Sir" ........ boo, hoo !) who can only blame themselves.

 

Piss poor stewarding.

 

What part di the players play in this? Should they be warned not to come that close to the fans, especially in what was a very emotional atmosphere in a must win game. Anyone stuck rigid with the rules, remember emotion makes football. Without it we have a sterile atmosphere that is one step away from being told when to applaud. Don’t mistake my comments for sticking up for the sizeable following of f*ckwits that regularly act like braindead morons, as was witnessed at Rochdale. Each situation should be weighed up on its merits, if the Peterborough ‘incident’ is deemed as punishable then supporting football is dying little by little in this country.

 

Sorry Roger that's absolute rubbish, they are young guys who celebrated a goal with our players it's as simple as that. I'll be honest I cringed reading the details of it, absolutely embarrassing. If the FA do come to us so show them where the double standards are in the game. Awful bit of work over a nothing incident, statement like that and the way it is worded is poor.

You've clearly done a great job for the club Roger but don't let that cloud the fact that this was just people enjoying themselves, let's not kill the buzz of a ball flying in the top corner and wild celebrations. Statements like that will make VP a morgue with no excitement or enthusiasm, ultimately we've had very very little to cheer all season so to put a dampener on it with this crap is very poor for me. Instead of our fans did this and did that, tell the FA that they are useless and incompetent. Stand together, Bradford vs THE FA. People power is under valued and with momentum can carry campaigns like this, regardless of whether James sent x amount of emails they are easy to brush aside, thousands of people wanting answers aren't.

Don't bend over for them.

 

It’s not just that though is it people jostling to get on the pitch can lead to injury to the police players and themselves. There are rules and they should be kept to. It’s is entirely possible to celebrate a goal within permitted areas.

 

Park there was about 10 people jumping up and down with the players come off it mate.

 

Firstly I'm not bending over for anyone. If I was I would have suggested we would not respond to the FA charges and let them do their worst at which point you would probably be on here berating the Club for lack of action.
Second I am the last to stop people enjoying themselves but the Club and the FA also have rules and standards to be adhered to and in this case the Ref has seen that there is an incident which breaks those rules. Incidentally it was not all kids, there were adults, even with grey hair, believe me I have the DVD.
Finally, where does it end is the stance that has to be taken. The way I read your comment is that a small crossing onto the pitch is not a problem so if they crossed to the six yard line is it a problem? We can debate that a long time but we are where we are with our third FA charge in as many months and possibly worse to come over the Oxford incident.

 

There were no police there and a couple of stewards. And despite that the fans never went more than a foot or so on the pitch. No one was injured, no one was scarred for life, just a very small highlight in a god awful season.