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Protest must happen

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Ricky, Oct 23, 2018.

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  1. SimonW

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    What earth are you living on?

    Lets just look at your 'Young kids with no experience' claim

    O'Donnell - 30 year old. 290 games under his belt. Over 100 of those at League 1 and 40 at Championship level

    McGowan - 29 years old. 256 games under his belt. Over 100 in the Scotish prem. 8 of them in European competitions too

    O'Connor - 25 year old. 245 games in total. 21 games in League 1, 70 in Scottish Prem and 5 in Europa League

    NKP - 31 year old. 492 games. 31 in Championship and 57 in league 1

    Wood - 22 year old. He maybe meets your description as this is the highest level he has played games at

    Wright - 28 year old. 344 games. Over 100 at league one level and 100 games at Championship level

    Akpan - 27 year old. 227 games. Around 150 at Championship level and even 9 Premier League games. Also 4 international caps

    O'Brien - 20 year old. The second who meets your description

    Miller - 20 year old. Is Young and doesn't have the most experience but he has played 30 games at League one level

    Doyle - 30 year old. 335 games. 50 at Scottish prem and 55 at Championship

    Payne - 23 year old. 169 games 78 at league one and 23 at Championship level

    That isn't an inexperienced team. The Man Utd 95/96 team had more youngsters who were put in at the expense of proven internationals than Citys team here and the experienced players there didn't just give up
     
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    #81 SimonW, Oct 24, 2018
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  2. Onside

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    How many of your members signed up to support a charity? I am not saying that ppl are not happy supporting charities along the way, I am happy for-that activity to take place.

    However, that is not the reason you are in existence, they signed up because they support City. Given what has been going on at City, it would be best in my view if you took a more neutral stance. Supporters are not all in favour of the way the club is being run, as a supporters club, we are not here to support the club regardless of what is happening. I would like to see Supporters Clubs take on more challenging stance to our current owners.
     
    #82 Onside, Oct 24, 2018
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  3. Onside

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    What I can’t get my head round is this, this is the second completely new squad of players who are nowhere near good enough, but all have better playing history than what we are seeing. Managers have come and gone the malaise is still here!
     
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  4. Jay

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    no because then theyll get banned from advertising and stuff,


    for example.


    Supporters trust, wont be standing in the main stand handing stuff out, advertising, theyll get banned

    bingly bantams -
    wont be having another beer festival


    that kind of stuff..
     
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  5. Onside

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    A club that refuses to listen to supporters club’s and bann them from speaking for the fans will soon feel the wrath of said supporters. You can’t deal with Rahic by nodding and pussy footing around him. We are upset and angry and we want answers not platitudes.
     
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  6. The_Parader

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    Oh for gods sake!!
     
    #86 The_Parader, Oct 24, 2018
  7. Hulmebantam

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    You can scoff but the potential is there.
     
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    #87 Hulmebantam, Oct 24, 2018
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  8. SimonW

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    Playing in the lower league losses about £600k a year in prize money. Attendances and season ticket sales fall by around half for clubs who get relegated in general (which has nothing to do with owners) which depending on how many of those were an early bird ST holder that's anywhere from 1-2million lost. TV money falls, sponsorship falls as they can't charge as much (and some existing sponsors will have terms where their rates fall if they get relegated and go up if promoted). They then have players on league 1 wages in league 2 unless they had relegation clauses which have to be offloaded often at discounts (sometimes even paying some of the player's wages just to get some of the wages off the books) and would still need to bring players in. Oh and that's if going into administration doesn't cause players contracts to be cancelled so they lose out on transfer fees to help bring new players in. And a points deduction may guarantee going down another division, certainly wouldn't get promoted meaning two seasons with less income

    It's just not worth the loss of income to get it cheap. They would have to invest way more than they would save
     
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    #88 SimonW, Oct 24, 2018
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  9. BoingBoing

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    As for when, surely for maximum publicity, it should be during the NEXT International Break. This is when lower league get more coverage on media channels such as Sky.

    However, the final international break of 2018 will come between November 12-20 and we have no home game in that period. Our next 2 games are Pompey (too soon?) and then Oxford on 24 November. Is this the ideal date?
     
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  10. Onside

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    I think we need to keep the date off the public forum.
     
    #90 Onside, Oct 24, 2018
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  11. SimonW

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    It doesn't mean there are any more cashflow issues than at any other club. Most clubs even PL ones lose money as the season goes on before the prize money and season tickets bump them up at the end/start of season. If a club thinks they are going to need to spend big in Jan its not going to be unusual that they chase up any money that is owed to help fund that even if its only just short-term cover until they can sell someone who is no longer needed
     
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    #91 SimonW, Oct 24, 2018
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  12. BoingBoing

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    Yes, that is actually true. We need Rahic to be there in person and if he gets any inkling that this is going to happen, he’ll just take his family on another “holiday”.
     
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    #92 BoingBoing, Oct 24, 2018
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  13. Faithful Bantam

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    Huh?
     
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  14. Onside

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    He thinks you are being melodramatic and alarmist. I don’t.
     
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    Plenty of indicators. Not saying it’s nailed on, but I think it’s possible. Even likely.
     
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  16. thebantamhaslanded

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    "hatred for Edin".

    I mean, really????
     
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    The youth element of City is about average for EFL teams, plenty of teams play far more U23 players
     
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  18. Onside

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    I hate what he is doing, but I don’t hate any living thing tbh.
     
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    Who signed the players ? You’ll find your answer
     
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    But that is looking increasingly like our fate now anyway. A few more weeks of this and we'll be adrift. I don't see a win anywhere in that fixture list at the moment.
     
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