Quantcast
  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice

Your Retained List

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Maverick, May 5, 2018.

  1. Sergio Pinto III

    Sergio Pinto III Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    7,120
    Likes Received:
    10,076
    Fair assessment but I think Taylor was a decent signing - nobody can be held accountable for how it ended. I would also say there isn't a lot of difference between Billy Clarke and Shay McCartan - goals to games ratio about the same.. The rest, yes we have missed and were not replaced adequately.

    A striker is a must, a decent winger, a goal scoring centre midfielder and a proper left back. I wouldnt mind another CB either. Those would be my priority then add a few more to make up the numbers.
     
    punk bantam and Onside like this.
  2. HUDDERSSBANTAM

    HUDDERSSBANTAM Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    3,193
    Likes Received:
    4,625
    Clarke is in a different league to McCartan. Clarke's technique and link up play are far better. There's a reason if Clarke was fit, he played, under both Parky and Stuart.
     
  3. Rogered Tart

    Rogered Tart Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    17,192
    Likes Received:
    40,826
    Taylor was a risk that was worth taking bearing in mind our limited resources. Unfortunately there was a reason he doesn't hang around club that long and we found that out. Shame because there is a decent player there as other clubs have shown with the money they forked out for him. I got the impression McCartan was a replacement for Clarke but they seem totally different players. McCartan looks more of a head down run at goal type of player rather than a creative type like Clarke. Has to play upfront if we are to see any sort of improvement out of him. Your goals to games ratio remark will end up the same next season IMO, we don't have the quality throughout the side to be a prolific scoring side, soemthing you usually only see with the teams with the bigger budgets such as Wigan and Blackburn this season and the likes of Sheffield Utd, Wolves and Bristol City in recent seasons. Like i mentioned it all depends who we bring in. Some players who looked poor this season suddenly look like different players when alongside new players, Law and Meredith spring to mind from last season, take away Meredith and his overlapping runs and Law looks a poorer player for it.
    An interesting summer of recruitment awaits.
     
    punk bantam and The Evidence like this.
  4. Keefly Bantam

    Keefly Bantam Important Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter P.L. 20/21 Top 20

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    9,806
    Likes Received:
    12,744
    Poleon is NOT a striker
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. Queenybantam

    Queenybantam Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2018
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    13
    Poleon is not a footballer
     
    Bronco, punk bantam and The Evidence like this.
  6. Ulysses S Grant

    Ulysses S Grant Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    11,429
    Likes Received:
    14,858
    Poleon is NOT even a footballer
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    The Evidence likes this.
  7. Botswana Bantam

    Botswana Bantam Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2018
    Messages:
    68,913
    Likes Received:
    57,257
    Doyle is back on the Republic of Ireland radar. Why would he sign a new contract at a league one club? Surely there'll be some Championship clubs asking him what he's looking for.
     
  8. Smartmart

    Smartmart Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    1,712
    He needs to play regularly though.
     
  9. bantam2708

    bantam2708 Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Winner

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,602
    Likes Received:
    13,830
    I'm not sure Doyle is championship level. His distribution isn't good enough
     
    Bronco likes this.
  10. BoingBoing

    BoingBoing Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    4,120
    Likes Received:
    4,503
    But it doesn’t matter if “Grayson seems to like (him)”, McMahon has wanted away twice already. So why would he be happy to stay now?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. Bantamigo

    Bantamigo Fringe Player

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    300
    Keep
    Doyle
    McMahon - think he’s been much better when made captain and still getting plenty of assists.
    Kilgallon
    Chicksen
    Robinson
    Reeves
    Gibson
    Dieng
    McCartan
    Wyke
    McGowan
    Bruenker
    Jones
     
  12. Smartmart

    Smartmart Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    1,712
    Doyle
    Robinson
    Gibson
    McGowan
    Kilgallon
    The rest can go.
    Get money for Wyke who doesn’t look like he wants to stay and can probably earn more elsewhere. Reshape & rebuild. REINVEST.
    Action will speak louder than words.
    If the board are inactive and we have poor on the cheap recruitment then this will get ugly quickly. This summer is a tipping point for this board. If they think ST Sales were poor this time then think again if we have a repeat of what happened this season. Their investment will wither. They need to invest or get out.
     
    HUDDERSSBANTAM and punk bantam like this.
  13. Inspector

    Inspector Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    3,243
    Likes Received:
    7,260
    Keep Doyle, McGowan, Chicksen, Reeves, Robinson, Wyke, Gibson, Brunker

    I’ll drive NKP, Dieng and Vince anywhere they want to go. Far too inconsistent and whose form has gone backwards, alarmingly in Vinces case. The rest are bang average, too small and weak.

    I’d like to see the focus on athleticism, similar to the Parky sides who bullied sides on the pitch and were fit enough to last beyond 90 minutes. We had a side with the majority of 6ft plus players back then, compared to the diminutive players we see now.
     
    #33 Inspector, May 7, 2018
    Last edited: May 7, 2018
  14. Silverbantam

    Silverbantam Squad Player
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    1,706
    Likes Received:
    1,676
    Optimistic
     
  15. TallinnBantam

    TallinnBantam Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    6,076
    Likes Received:
    8,120
    I think Chicksen is pretty average. Is he out of contract? If so, ship him out. NKP sadly too. So much promise at the start of the season. It’s quite spectacular how his wheels have fallen off, along with Vince.
     
    bantam2708 likes this.
  16. Sergio Pinto III

    Sergio Pinto III Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    7,120
    Likes Received:
    10,076
    You seriously think we need to get rid of 20+ players and bring 20+ in? Don't forget there are 4 loans leaving that will need replacing too.

    I have no issue with players like Chickson, Dieng, Devine, Reeves, Jones etc staying if we can find suitable players for the first XI. We need a squad and players like that are ok as back up and to fill in when needed.
     
  17. BoingBoing

    BoingBoing Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    4,120
    Likes Received:
    4,503
    I think some of you need to learn what a Retained List means. Some of you have just gone through the entire squad picking and choosing who you want to keep. That isn’t how this works.

    You’re only supposed to be looking at those out of contract as it isn’t as easy as clicking your fingers and X, Y and Z move on too. Remember, if you think they are crap, it doesn’t matter where you’d “be happy to drive them”, what’s to say another club would want them?

    Or are you suggesting we use some of our small budget to pay off players from their contracts?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    punk bantam likes this.
  18. TallinnBantam

    TallinnBantam Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    6,076
    Likes Received:
    8,120
    Agree - but remember, Simon also said that the whole squad needs a complete overhall. It's not just us thinking the majority of our players are crap :)
     
    The Evidence likes this.
  19. Smartmart

    Smartmart Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    1,712
    The rest can go. Doesn’t mean we will be able the engineer moves for them. I’m talking ideologically. Agree that some may be hard to shift. Even harder will be recruiting. Given the shenanigans this year who will want to sign. I don’t think our board will benefit from many glowing references. Even If they are prepared to offer parity when competing with others for signatures,players talk. I fear that summer recruitment will be difficult and we may end up with names who others do not want rather than our preferred choices.
     
  20. Smartmart

    Smartmart Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    1,712
    NKP has been shocking.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice