Would you be happy with this guy in charge

Who said we had spent the money well the question was where had the money from the windfalls gone. And the answer is because we spend more than we bring in as the accounts show what was it 1.9 million. There are going to be clubs go out of business over this crisis there is talk of as many as eight championship clubs having points docked for the debt they have run up and some will also be in danger. Yes the money we have made has been used wastefully But until we have people in charge who are prepared to lose a fortune which we all want and good luck with that some of us have waited for someone like that for the last sixty years. The club will continue to be run the way it is new owners or not.

 

You were asked where the windfalls had gone and you response was to point out that we run at a loss every year and that’s what they’ve been financing. True in part, but it doesn’t even come remotely close to painting the full picture.

Agree about needing an owner prepared to fund us though because it certainly isn’t Rupp.

 

The Rupp, Rahic scenario was strange to say the least.I've owned several
businesses in my time and all were within my capabilities in regards the
understanding of the kind of business I undertook.

It helps a great deal to like and have knowledge of what you are undertaking.

They say "partnerships are the worst ships that ever sailed" and there is truth
in that to a degree because you have to have two or more people with the same
mindset and ambition if it's to have a chance to succeed.Stick a lot of hard work,
dedication and sacrifice with adequate funding and give it your best.

So,looking at Rack and Ruin,they didn't even know each other,Rahic had little money
but lots of dreams he turned into nightmares and Rupp went along with it and found
himself adrift in a boat and he can't swim.

No passion from Rupp,he doesn't care about City or football so where does that leave us?
He left the job to Rhodes who has no financial input as far as I know although sure he cares
about the club so all in all,a new football dedicated owner with adequate finance would be
welcome in my view.

 

Whilst I agree with this statement.
I have been brought to task by other's on here previously when they say we need an 'Invester'. We Don't
No one 'Invests' in clubs at our level (or just about any level tbh , especially the Championshp)
What we need is a wealthy benefactor to spunk a load of money at us, because that is what is needed.
If this ever so mysterical 'Benefactor' come's about (We seem to have been waiting for at least two decades for this prodical one) they will have to 'Invest' in the above division.
We along with just about ever club are not self sustaining

 

It will be interesting if things change going forward, though, given these clubs know how perilous a position they are in.

No football league club should be running at a loss, anywhere, ever. The fact that almost all are is a joke. It's not like there's a teeny amount of money in the game.

 

Spot on but I think we have been waiting for at last six decades. Sadly nobody makes their money in or wants to be associated wIth Bradford

 

Or maybe we invest it in the wrong ways.

 

I'd agree that a lack of monies for basic infrastrucre would be nearer.
Investment is an inaccurate word to use as this is based on a return from that.
My whole premise, is that we're looking for a Unicorn if we're looking for investment.
What actually we're looking for is someone to plough a load of money into us. Realistically along with just about everyone fron the Champsionship down .All clubs need their owners to prop them up, this is what it boils down to.

 

Rupp brought us for investment though and no other reason because he didn't know Edin and has no interest in football.

He brought the club for all the wrong reasons but now needs to leave for the right reasons which is Bradford City.

 

He was sold a pipe dream that's for certain.

 

It's a great shame that over our existence there doesn't
appear to of been a period where we have had progressive
board/owners who have wanted "success" and been prepared
to invest in the dream all supporters have.

Maybe in the early days, football was not considered the sport
the City wanted and maybe Rugby was preferred but winning
the FA cup so early after our formation and being in the top
flight should of been the catalyst to create a top side in the
country but alas,reading the history, the press usually commented
that the lack of interest and investment caused further downfall.

 

Drainage pipes specifically.

 

You make some interesting points, along with Park in Post 67. You and I are of a similar age but I don't agree it was Rugby over football. Remember we had 2 League Clubs until 1960s and when my old man first took me it was BPA who were the top dogs in Div. 2 with us in Div. 3 North. BPA had the bigger crowds and better stadium, then failed. Bradford Northern, as was, had success, then failed to rise again to huge success and fail once more to a point where, after poor ownership over several years they will probably never get back, with no sign of a rich backer.
In our case we have always been the poor relation. When I started going at age 5 having been given the choice of BPA or City I picked City because they had the better brass band, like you do at that age. Even then VP was run down, had a poor playing area and for several years was only three sided because there was no money to develop.
Against all this through the years Bradford was a City with wealth, at one time it had a higher number of Rolls Royce per head than London and whilst some of the 'Wool Barons' gave themselves to Civic life for the City they did so in most cases out of self interest, putting their wealth into their own families, property e.g. the big houses of Nab Wood in Shipley or Baildon or Ilkley for example. They were not too interested in things like Valley Parade.
That has been the case all my life. Yes, we have had the odd money man, Stafford and Geoffrey possibly but not a true multi millionaire and I suspect we never will.
Bradford per se is not seen as an attractive place to the outside world as I know through my business career. We have a low income economy, hence our Season Ticket price and the demographic by country of origin and other sporting backgrounds goes against. When you get Manningham based Arsenal 'supporters' ringing for League Cup tickets a few seasons ago then asking where the ground is, yes I was there when it happened, then you see just how attractive we are. We have a massive problem in attracting investment. Contrary to some on here we are not a huge Club, we do not have a fully supportive Local Authority unless we have a Cup run and then they look for free tickets.
BCFC is a reflection of the City as are the Bulls and BPA and the Speedway and the Stockcars and even local league cricket.
I know a lot on here don't agree with my apparent support for Stefan but rid of his appalling partner he is the best we are likely to have for a while. I have said several months ago I forecast up to 5 years to get over Rahic and until we can do that I fear there will be little interest from new buyers. Possibly Stefan can get some additional investment, I'm not in a position to know but I do know without the money that has gone in since the departure of Rahic we may be another BPA or Bulls.

 

The money that's gone in is being recouped with the McBurnie income isn't it? Or at least that was the explanation for where it was being spent at the time. And if it is, just what exactly has Rupp personally put into the club?

 

And that money has only been necessitated because of Rupps negligence in the first place.

 

So again we come back to, just exactly what has Rupp done for us for @wetherbywhaler to suggest he's "the best we're likely to have"?

 

We seem to be infested with a complete lack of ambition. An owner thats seen us completely mismanage a playing budget, assemble a god awful squad, relegated, drifting outside the playoffs, 5 managers in 2 years, rotten pitch, reduced attendances and eroded trust between club and fans. That’s the best we can hope for is it?

 

I can't comment on the last paragraph because i'm not privvy to what goes in or out of the clubs accounts but the rest is a pretty accurate summarisation of the history of the club. We aren't a big club in any way shape or form in any division, possibly in league 2 but then along with league 1 (or division 3 as it was back yonder) its pretty much been our home.

 

Unless we strike lucky like we did with Phil Parkinson. I know Parky has his critics but he along with Geoffrey Richmond are pretty much the only reason i've ever seen any success at this club.